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Roll call: Keep Pounding or Burn It Down


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Just now, t96 said:

These past two games have been about as bad as it gets, however I'd say we keep fighting for a wildcard and try to knock the Aints out of a first round bye. Once we're in anything can happen.

we are not beating the saints in the super dome. this is a top 10 team in charlotte, bottom 5 away. saints will score more in the 1st Q than we will all game if we play them

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I'm just sick of this same old song and dance with Rivera. Even when he does have a winning record it seems like half of the wins are lucked in to. The final straw for me has been this defense. The Saints and Falcons have given the entire league the blueprint for beating us, we've seen it used against us every single fuging game this year, and they're still incapable of making any changes.

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1 minute ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

we are not beating the saints in the super dome. this is a top 10 team in charlotte, bottom 5 away. saints will score more in the 1st Q than we will all game if we play them

Divisional games are always random as hell, anything can happen.

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31 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

This is a noble take, but when that team trips over its own dick and refuses to win games, those who are the culprits should not be rewarded by staying the season. 

Go find another team then bro, believe it or not but poo just happens, doesn’t mean I’m happy with it, but centainly not asking for the team to blow it up at 6-4

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4 hours ago, Doc Holiday said:

Go find another team then bro, believe it or not but poo just happens, doesn’t mean I’m happy with it, but centainly not asking for the team to blow it up at 6-4

Sorry, but that’s not gonna happen. I’m entitled to my opinion. You don’t have to like it and you definitely don’t need to get on a high horse and judge who needs to pick a new team.

There are a lot of diehard fans here who suffered through 2001 and 2010 among many other years. We aren’t going any damn where. 

The problem is — the team isn’t going anywhere like the playoffs unless changes are made. 

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While I hope to hell we win every damn week and I have been watching this team since the inaugural season, this team is at a crossroads and it is becoming clear we have to take a new road to win a championship. I would love nothing more than us to make a run in the playoffs this year but right now am not confident we will even make the playoffs. If we dont do the latter we should blow up the coaching staff and also cut bait with some useless fat on the roster.

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I'm never in favor of giving up, but I'm a realist.

Today I watched us lose to a lousy team, then turned around and watched the Saints wipe their feet on the world champions.

I'll always cheer for my team, but sometimes I do so with very low expectations.

This is one of those times.

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I will never give up, but I don't have high expectations. If we somehow make the playoffs, its as a wildcard and this team has struggled on the road. 

The draft is such a crapshoot. Playing for draft position doesn't guarantee anything. 

This off-season could see huge changes to our personel (both Kalils, Peppers, Olsen, Funchess, TD, Adams, etc.) There's no way to know what next year will be like.

We only get 16 games a year, I'm going into each one hoping for success and rooting for the Panthers. 

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It pains me to say this, but we’re simply an average team right now

-we have 4 definitive wins, all at home, none of which against teams with winning records

- we pulled two wins out of our asses against teams with losing records

-we lost 3 games on the road to very mediocre teams, none of which will be playing in January

- the one good team we played this year humialated us

would it surprise me if this team rights the ship and finishes 9-7/10-6 and makes the playoffs? Nope. But I honestly think that’s a worst case scenario long term. We arent winning in New Orleans in the playoffs, the last thing I want is this team winning 10 games, hurting its draft position, and earning Rivera another year when it’s crystal clear at this point we will never win a Lombardi with him. I think there is good talent here, but he is our Tampa Tony Dungy

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Nothing wrong with rebuilding, and I am all for it with this team sorry. The window is closing. 

2 conditions

1. We purge these jokers clean from top down. We give new staff (coach / gym) full authority. 

2. Gotta commit to the rebuild. Give young talent some time (2 years) to get it together. There will be growing pains. No knee jerk signings, and give the new staff some time. As fans, you gotta prepare for a couple of years of losing. 

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Blow up coaching staff tired of Rivera. He hasn' changed in 8yrs same thing yr after year. I' not satisfied with just going to the playoffs thats been achieved  not satisfied by making it to the SB thats been achieved. I want to win one with Cam and Luke actively playing on this team. 8ys have been squandered for Cam and now he is starting to get injured. It' time for new blood and a new vision for this team.

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