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Going for two was the right call.


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8 minutes ago, trueblade said:

The percentages say a 2pt is a 50/50 proposition, EP is over 90%.

Here's where it doesn't make sense. Even if you make it, Detroit had 3 timeouts to get into field goal range with a kicker who owns the record for longest field goal made and had already hit a 50+ field goal. Saying if we get the two we win implies a belief you're defense will get the stop. It's almost like Ron hasn't watched his defense the last two games and still thinks they are elite rather than middle of the road. 

Based on the performance of the defense against Detroit, I had zero confidence that we would stop them from getting into field goal range regardless if we were tied or up one. 

But that mentality suggests that we simply couldn't win the game because they were going to get a FG regardless of whether we get 1 or 2.

 

Might as well go for the win and go down swinging

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46 minutes ago, Manther said:

I thought Ron might go for it because he didn't want to go into ot on the road.   It was a reasonable call and had it worked we'd be celebrating Riverboat Ron.  It didn't.  The play call looked like crap and the execution looked worse.

Even if we converted we would probably have lost by two with a FG. 

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Seemed like the right call to go for it.

However, one play and you need two yards to take the lead with one minute left in the game. I'm giving the ball to the best short yardage back in the NFL (Cam) to run it in. 

Reminded me of another situation where the previous "best short yardage back" in the NFL not getting the ball on first and goal from the one - in the Super Bowl.

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The decision was crap.  Nothing we did on that play could win the game for us.

Consider that the chances of us stopping Detroit after the touchdown have nothing to do with what happens on that play.  Whether we get one or two points there, our defense is going to have to stop their offense.  Whether it's tied, or we have the lead, Detroit gets the ball.

Now, what happens when they have the ball might be affected . . . and all of the ways those effects could be positive only apply if the game is tied.

With the game tied, if the first couple plays don't go well, Detroit just runs out the clock and goes to overtime.  If *at any point* during the ensuing drive, things go poorly, Detroit runs out the clock and goes to overtime.  This keeps us in the game!

On the other hand, if the Lions are behind, they have nothing to lose.  They are going to put everything into winning.  That's only a negative for us.

Everything about that situation said take the tie.  We had momentum at that point.  A tie gets Cam and our offense back on the field - and that's been our most reliable route to victory this year.  Rivera made a call that showed no confidence in our offense.  He basically said that we weren't going to score again even if we got to overtime, and that's THE WRONG CALL.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Manther said:

Maybe.  Over a minute and all their timeouts, they could have covered the distance.  We also stopped them on the previous series.

We did but relying on that defense wasn't something even Rivera was willing to risk. 

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