Sooo.... are we gonna talk about what happened in that Steelers game??

[Broku]

17 hours ago, GoPanthers123 said:

The team was unprepared and overwhelmed.  Say what you will but we are much more comfortable at home than on the road.    Is our D really being micromanaged so if we dont have enough time to prepare there are blown coverages all over the place?  I have no idea how serious is the issue but it was really ugly. 

We’re on a huge win streak at home, if we ever lose it’s on the road.  This game got out of hand once that pick 6 happened.  Heartbreaker.

[Broku]

12 hours ago, hepcat said:

The thing that makes me most nervous, especially about Eric Washington and the defense, was that they said they were NOT reviewing the tape of the Pittsburgh game and were moving on. Coupled with the fact the team had to cancel a practice this week and I'm worried about another piss poor defensive outing on Sunday. The Detroit game is a watershed moment for our young DC.

I’m not worried about Detroit.  That team is in all sorts of bad shape right now.  Completely different league than Pittsburgh 

[Broku]

11 hours ago, RumHam said:

Nope, and not reading that poo either. Move on with your life. We will never beat Pittsburgh.

Never change RumHam. 

[Camp Fodder]

12 hours ago, hepcat said:

The thing that makes me most nervous, especially about Eric Washington and the defense, was that they said they were NOT reviewing the tape of the Pittsburgh game and were moving on. Coupled with the fact the team had to cancel a practice this week and I'm worried about another piss poor defensive outing on Sunday. The Detroit game is a watershed moment for our young DC.

Agree and I have no idea why Ron gave the team 4 days off. The advantage of a bye or mini bye is getting a jump start on your opponent. Starting on Tuesday is the same as playing on Sunday

[Darvinsun]

9 hours ago, Broku said:

Tough to eat the safety there but I agree, that would’ve been the better call 

Why just would have been o points instead of 7. We could not stop Steelers at all.

[Broku]

20 hours ago, arbnranger said:

Great post as usual Broku. 

That was one of those games that I switched off emotionally early on. I could tell they got shell shocked and collectively, we lost our bearing. That’s easy to detect is you have been a life long WVU fan. 

Thursday night games are relatively new as far as I can remember but they are starting to carry a little more weight and pressure similar to the gravity during a Monday night game. National stage, no one else playing. 

Most folks say in high pressure situations it’s either “fight or flight” but there is also “freeze”. 

I don’t believe we are that bad, that we were underprepared or took Pittsburgh lightly. The Steelers had us off balance early and we never regained our footing. Sound familiar ? (See SB 50)  

I took note in the fact that Rivera mentioned on several occasions that they didn’t watch the film together. There is definitely something the team can learn from this game, not all X’s and O’s. 

Appreciate the post and the humor. 

 

I don’t know if the panthers froze, they just stopped pounding ironically.  That pick 6 turned the whole game into quick sand.  I still blame Norv

[Broku]

1 hour ago, Darvinsun said:

Why just would have been o points instead of 7. We could not stop Steelers at all.

Cam didn’t make the best decision on the play, but if he doesn’t sail the throw it actually turns into a decent play.  Olsen had space and blockers.  Tj watt came through unblocked  though and did his job disrupting the play 

[Broku]

18 hours ago, Jangler said:

soooo...that's a no?

 

btw most people get fired friday 5:00

IVE NEVER HEARD THAT SONG BEFORE BUT THAT SHYT IS HILARIOUS

[GRWatcher]

17 hours ago, hepcat said:

The thing that makes me most nervous, especially about Eric Washington and the defense, was that they said they were NOT reviewing the tape of the Pittsburgh game and were moving on. Coupled with the fact the team had to cancel a practice this week and I'm worried about another piss poor defensive outing on Sunday. The Detroit game is a watershed moment for our young DC.

No practice was cancelled. They simply flip flopped a normal Thursday full practice with a normal Friday  short practice when they install the game plan. In other words, they installed the game plan on Thursday instead of Friday and had a full practice on Friday instead of on Thursday. 

 

4 hours ago, Camp Fodder said:

Agree and I have no idea why Ron gave the team 4 days off. The advantage of a bye or mini bye is getting a jump start on your opponent. Starting on Tuesday is the same as playing on Sunday

The CBA stipulates that players are given 4 consecutive days off on bye weeks. The NFL & NFLPA must be looking at the 'mini bye' the same way. 

https://nflpaweb.blob.core.windows.net/media/Default/PDFs/2011 CBA Updated with Side Letters thru 1-5-15.pdf

Quote

Section 2. Bye Weeks: During any regular season bye week period occurring during the
term of this Agreement, players will be given a minimum of four consecutive days off.
Such four-day period must include a Saturday and a Sunday unless the Club is scheduled
to play a game on the Thursday following the bye week, in which case players may be
required to report to the Club on the Sunday preceding the Thursday game. In such an
event, the four-day period shall be Wednesday through Saturday. Any injured player may
be required to undergo medical or rehabilitation treatment during such four-day period
provided that such treatment is deemed reasonably necessary by the Club’s medical staff

 

[MasterAwesome]

Finally someone feels comfortable calling out Norv when he deserves it....what made it funnier was how Jeremy starts a reactionary thread about Norv after the first drive and then he immediately proceeds to sh&$ the bed on national television. There would be 27 hit-piece threads made if Shula had called a game where he: A) calls a bootleg from his own 12 yard line on 1st and 10 that leaves an edge rusher unblocked, B) abandons the run after we killed them with it the first drive, C) ran multiple pass plays that called for CMC to single-handedly block 300 pound linemen when we were already giving up enormous amounts of pressure, and D) never really adjusted to mitigate some of that pressure (via either the run game or short passing game). Shula was crucified for predictably running it on first down (although I don’t know if that was really substantiated) and yet Norv consistently runs it out of the Read-Option on so many second-and-longs this season.

I’m not a Shula fan, but I’m even less a fan of hypocrisy and double standards.

[thefuzz]

I keep hearing TD say what he said about getting punched in the mouth, were riding high, etc....

 

I've always wondered if the players, especially the veteran players watch football at all?  I mean, we as fans know who the good teams are, how they like to play, what makes the teams tick...do the veterans know?  Other than film study the week of, do they recognize who the really good teams are?

Just a little hard to believe that you would roll up to Pitt thinking that we would do to them what we did to Tampa.

[Broku]

9 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

Finally someone feels comfortable calling out Norv when he deserves it....what made it funnier was how Jeremy starts a reactionary thread about Norv after the first drive and then he immediately proceeds to sh&$ the bed on national television. There would be 27 hit-piece threads made if Shula had called a game where he: A) calls a bootleg from his own 12 yard line on 1st and 10 that leaves an edge rusher unblocked, B) abandons the run after we killed them with it the first drive, C) ran multiple pass plays that called for CMC to single-handedly block 300 pound linemen when we were already giving up enormous amounts of pressure, and D) never really adjusted to mitigate some of that pressure (via either the run game or short passing game). Shula was crucified for predictably running it on first down (although I don’t know if that was really substantiated) and yet Norv consistently runs it out of the Read-Option on so many second-and-longs this season.

I’m not a Shula fan, but I’m even less a fan of hypocrisy and double standards.

If the edge rusher was left unblocked intentionally by play design, that makes the call that much worse.  

[PantherGuy]

On 11/16/2018 at 2:55 AM, Broku said:

Alright, so what the hell happened last Thursday.

 

I mean I’m serious.  I feel like I watched a Volkswagon Beetle filled with clowns drive straight off the side of a cliff, and the whole way down they all just started making balloon animals mid-fall.  What a fuging disaster.  Blood/guts facepaint and low-quality balloon animals everywhere at the crash site for this one.  

 

The worst part about it was that this game could have been SO MUCH DIFFERENT had there not been so many mistakes that the Panthers made.  Some of the mistakes were so blatant that even a casual football observer could see, and some were the kind of mistakes that only the real football OG’s could discern.  Let’s dive into that.

 

SIDE NOTE: Leave it to the Panthers to allow BIG BEN OF ALL PEOPLE to go off in primetime.  Man I hated watching that.  I don’t think I’ve hated something that’s occurred in a Panthers game that deeply since last year when Matt Khalil decided to leave Cam Jordan unblocked and almost got QB1 killed at home vs. the Saints last yr.  Hate him or love him though, this team needs Matt Khalil back something fierce.  You can’t pick up a guy off the couch and put him at LT and expect that honeymoon to last forever.  Let’s get our 50 million dollar man back.  Fug, that O-line was used like a donkey in the desert on Thursday.  Pathetic effort.  

 

Moving on though, lets talk about

 

THE MISTAKES THAT WERE OBVIOUS TO FUGGING EVERYONE. 

 

Let’s take a quick look at a screenshot here.

 

 

Even a dipshit that’s never watched football before can tell that SOMETHING DUN WENT WRONG HERE.  I mean WTF Eric Washington???  Were ya dialing up the ol’ “Outsmart them by being ostensibly dumb” strategy here?  What’s better is the explanation from Voth on Twitter.

 

 

 

 

LMFAO WHAT??!  YOU WON'T GO INTO DETAIL MY GUY???!? CUZ I'M PRETTY SURE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU SHOULD INDEED GO INTO DETAIL. 

 

In his defense though, I mean what else can you say if you’re him here.

 

This was one of those situations for good ol’ Eric where you just gotta blame it on the dog when you fart at the dinner table.   Any other explanation here besides this, it means you’re out the door.  I SURE HOPE there was a “miscommunication” you bumbling troglodyte.  I could’ve shat a brick when I saw this play.  I’ve watched this team for the last decade+ and I’ve never seen THIS sort of lapse of coherence on defense. All things standing though, this explanation smells like the familiar reek of a dawgshyt excuse but I’ll give good ol’ eric the benefit of the doubt.  For now.

 

Moving on, lets talk

 

THE MISTAKES THAT WEREN’T SO OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE

 

Let’s break down the play that turned this game from a competitive affair to an all-out curb-stomping.  Do you remember when this happened?

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, in case you were wondering, that’s TJ Watt in prime position to murder our superstar.  

 

This play was the first play of our ensuing drive after somehow Eric Washington’s defense had another “whoopsie daisy” miscommunication resulting in an easy Steelers opening drive TD.   There was a holding penalty on the Panthers ensuing kickoff that led to this 1^st and 10 play from the FUGGING 12 YARD LINE. 

 

This play call was a mistake by Norv Turner.

 

There is absolutely no reason to call this bootleg play-action pass from this part of the field.  If this play occurred from the Panther’s 25, it’s a different story. Instead,  Norv was like “fug it it’s in the game script, let’s run it anyway” in regards to this call.  By doing this, Norv put cam in a tough spot and FORCED this bad play.  Granted, Cam could’ve… yanno… not thrown a pick 6, but at the same time the Panthers shouldn’t of tried to get cute on the road here.   Huge play ended up essentially wrapping up the game.   I put this shitshow of a play on Norv.  Old balls blew it here, but anyway.

 

Lets wrap this up with some winners/losers then some final thoughts

 

 

WINNERS:

 

 

I should say “winner” because the only winner this game was Showtime Christian McCaffrey.

 

Dude was a baller.  Obviously the franchise has faith in him because they decided to fire CJ Anderson on his day off.   How you get fired on your day off CJ?  Did they catch you stealin empty boxes or somethin???  Anyway,  when it comes to CMAC, this game was just another healthy game, another healthy step towards a HOF career.  This isn’t the first time I’ve said this but, if this guy stays healthy for the next 6-8 years, he’s a first ballot HOF’er.   Promise.  

 

WINNERS LIST TALLY YEAR TO DATE

 

Cam: 2

CMAC: 2

Curtis Samuel: 1

Matsko and the entire O-line: 1 (hahah remember those times)

 

LOSERS:

 

 

Well damn where do I start.  God almighty.  I could throw a dart at a Panthers team photo and probably bullseye a loser right in the face from this game.  Honestly I like my odds there.    Let’s go against the grain on this one and say Norv Turner.

 

 

Norv, you seriously screwed us this game.  IDGAF about all the good things you did to hit a TD on that opening drive, that 1^st & 10 from the 13 was a TERRIBLE FUGGING CALL.  Hey old balls, listen up.  You simply can’t put cam in a situation to throw a desperation-off-the-back-foot pass under HUGE PRESSURE simply because he was just trying to avoid a safety.  Ya kinda screwed the pooch there my guy.   You rolled the dice and it came up sevens.  I'd give you the benefit of the doubt if it weren't for the fact that it seemed like you had no understanding of the risk that was taken with this call.  Seems like there were no fugs given here with the call, but either way moving on.

 

EVEN BIGGER LOSER

 

The entire left side of the O-line.   It’s prettttyyyy bad when the fan base wants M. Khalil back.  Enough said.

 

 

 

FINAL THOUGHTS: 

 

Fug it, this team is still a 13-3 team.  The Panthers looked like deer in the headlights because they were punched in the mouth at the absolute wrong time.  I mean the Steelers scored 14 points in under 30 seconds, AFTER the panthers had to convert a 4^TH DOWN JUST TO SCORE ONCE.  That was deflating.  They folded.  They’ll learn from it.  I didn’t think this would be the week they got their last loss of the season, but here we are.   The good news is this:  If the Panthers win out, they earn the two seed in the NFC.   I really do see this happening.  Justttt watch.    If it doesn’t end up happening well damn I’ll just end up being a monkey’s uncle.   Where the hell did that expression come from anyway, I mean what’s so bad about being an uncle to a monkey…  I don’t get the shade.  

 

Detroit’s up next and I fully expect some frustration being taken out on the Lions.  This game will be like a 34-17 type of ordeal.  Call me crazy but I’ve got a hunch.

 

 

 

 

Till next time though, thanks for reading.

 

 

 

 

-Broku.

 

 

Twitter:  @BrokuThe

This is funny poo bro. Good work

[PantherGuy]

On 11/16/2018 at 9:37 AM, PantherBrew said:

Road games on Thursday are tough as hell.  

We ran into a buzz saw hitting on all cylinders, who are a terrible matchup for us. This poo can snowball on the road, quickly.  

 

People are killing Washington for the 3rd and 3 "miscommunication" comments.  I am going to give him a pass on this.  I honestly don't believe him when he says that. I think he did call that.  I can see why.  Probably anticipated an "all stops" or short crosses.  Having that many people right at the sticks could work.  I mean you aren't going to get there anyway , then he should have explained how it happened.  I used to be a high school DC, I can easily envision a scenario where you call a blitz based on the strength, where you bring pressure from one side and drop coverage on the other side.  It could really happen, especially it being in the MOF and if there were motions.  I hate even typing this much, this play could or could not be indicative of Washington as a DC.   There is not a lot of trust on this defense at the moment.  

The biggest mistake wasn't promoting Washington to DC, the biggest mistake was not getting much more experienced position coaches.  I had that luxury when I was promoted, and I can tell you I would have failed miserably w/o that help.  

Lastly, the Defense gave up 45.  Which is ALOT, but in the context of this NFL season, it isn't that crazy.  

Oh well, we got blasted by a contender on the road.  The lions game will tell us more about this team than the Steeler game. 

 

Appreciate the perspective about the high scores in the NFL now. 45 points by an offense is a lot, but it isn't crazy hard to get that high anymore.