Panthers WAIVE CJ Anderson

[Castavar]

I thought when we signed him that this could turn into another Kamara/Ingram combo, but we never used him for some reason. Why even sign him in the first place? You cut a quality insurance backup RB and go out and sign a lesser version of CJA? I'm so done with this dumbass coaching staff and FO. Just blow it up in the offseason before Cam gets too old.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, TheRed said:

This has Rivera's doghouse written all over it honestly.

And if it's because of the Atlanta game, that's just silly.

Anderson has four fumbles in a six year career (none this season) but made mistakes that plenty of other guys have made in a role where he wasn't best suited.  McCaffrey has three fumbles in only his second season, so technically a higher turnover rate.

This just doesn't make sense.

[Kevin Greene]

Maybe if Anderson was signed before we signed Norv Turner..... But we signed Anderson 4 months after Turner.

As Zod alluded, it's something off field and maybe it will come out.

[Boundary Guru]

I think it is obvious that he was in the coaches' doghouse. Rather than was from social media posts or problems with management, who knows? Maybe he was in the doghouse from posts and it escalated from there. Obviously the team isn't going to cut someone of CJ experience and worth because of CMC usage. Like someone else posted the team has made some moves in the last year+- that were head scratching that turned out very good. Therefore it's a little quick to judge long term even short term. Also from what we were getting from CJ we can get the same from Curtis.

 

What is the deal with Hood? I would like to see him get some chances.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Boundary Guru said:

I think it is obvious that he was in the coaches' doghouse. Rather than was from social media posts or problems with management, who knows? Maybe he was in the doghouse from posts and it escalated from there. Obviously the team isn't going to cut someone of CJ experience and worth because of CMC usage. Like someone else posted the team has made some moves in the last year+- that were head scratching that turned out very good. Therefore it's a little quick to judge long term. Also from what we were getting from CJ we can you get the same from Curtis.

 

What is the deal with Hood? I would like to see him get some chances.

Hood is on IR and doesn't seem likely to return.

[PntherPryd]

3 minutes ago, bull123 said:

Doesn’t make sense at all...depth is always good

not only is depth good.

not only would you expect to hear even an inkling that he was available before the trade deadline

not only did we immediately go sign nearest scrub

but....

why waive him so he can go help somebody else not only with his talent but with his knowledge of our playbook?

#waitingforothershoe  

[Johnny Rockets]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Our friend Roaring Riot has confirmed that he did not.

The official reason given by the team is "We have McCaffrey so we don't need him." I always thought depth and insurance in case someone gets hurt (cause ya know, football) were good things, but hey...

The tinfoil hat theory is that it's because of Twitter/Instagram posts.  I'd like to think our team leadership isn't stupid enough to part ways with a good player in midseason for a horses--t excuse like that.

Some folks believe there has to be more to it than that.  Me? I think there actually might not be.

So you don’t think CJ wanted out? Ron was on Panthers Talk just a bit ago and said they parted ways because CJ was unhappy with his role on the team and what he and the team envisioned for him were different. Decided to part ways. 

Marty was coming on to talk about it also but I wasn’t able to stick around for that. 

[tiger7_88]

2 hours ago, Toolbox said:

CJ is clearly the better runner than CAP is.. 

Statistically with other teams running different offenses?  Absolutely.  No doubt about it.

With Carolina while lining up next to a running QB in the Carolina offense which often uses the read-option?  His stats and averages in the very few carries he received (4.3 ypc) track pretty much identically to the stats and averages that CAP has (4.3 ypc) in the very few carries that *he* has received.  Except that Anderson's catch % (catches divided by targets) in the Carolina offense in very limited opportunities was 33% compared to CAPs 100% in very limited opportunities.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Johnny Rockets said:

So you don’t think CJ wanted out? Ron was on Panthers Talk just a bit ago and said they parted ways because CJ was unhappy with his role on the team and what he and the team envisioned for him were different. Decided to part ways. 

Marty was coming on to talk about it also but I wasn’t able to stick around for that. 

Don't know.  I do know Roaring Riot said he did not ask for his release.

But even if he is unhappy, why do you part ways with solid depth going into the stretch run of the season?

The better response would be to either use him more or, at the very least, keep him around "just in case".

Happy players are nice.  Winning is nicer.

[Khyber53]

Honestly, if CJ had been lighting it up in practices and had the confidence of the coaching staff, we'd have seen him out there more.

In the end, for some reason, he wasn't fitting into the game plan and he wasn't able to make a case for getting onto the field.

I hope we don't regret it, but it isn't like we just chucked a starter on the trash heap. 

And the Cadet signing has everything to do with New Orleans.

[Toolbox]

3 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Statistically with other teams running different offenses?  Absolutely.  No doubt about it.

With Carolina while lining up next to a running QB in the Carolina offense which often uses the read-option?  His stats and averages in the very few carries he received (4.3 ypc) track pretty much identically to the stats and averages that CAP has (4.3 ypc) in the very few carries that *he* has received.  Except that Anderson's catch % (catches divided by targets) in the Carolina offense in very limited opportunities was 33% compared to CAPs 100% in very limited opportunities.

CJ also has one thing that CAP doesn't that is very important... playoff experience.. he knows the grind and knows what the SB is like.. that is invaluable imo.

[Johnny Rockets]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Don't know.  I do know Roaring Riot said he did not ask for his release.

But even if he is unhappy, why do you part ways with solid depth going into the stretch run of the season?

The better response would be to either use him more or, at the very least, keep him around "just in case".

Happy players are nice.  Winning is nicer.

I doubt anyone will find out the details for sure (as it should be) but whether he asked for his release or not,  CJ was obviously unhappy enough and expressed it enough that keeping him around was no longer in the best interest of the team. 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Johnny Rockets said:

I doubt anyone will find out the details for sure (as it should be) but whether he asked for his release or not,  CJ was obviously unhappy enough and expressed it enough that keeping him around was no longer in the best interest of the team. 

This is where I can't agree. A lot of non-starters may not be particularly pleased with their role, but that's football.  You don't dump good depth for that reason.

If something happens to McCaffrey now, how smart will it look to have dumped an experienced, battle tested thousand yard backup because he was "unhappy"?

 

[TheRumGone]

Sorry who cares if he was “unhappy” with his role. You need talented players in the playoffs. And depth.We needed him.