This may be the worst defensive play call I have ever seen.

[tiger7_88]

29 minutes ago, CatMan72 said:

Ron is a really good defensive coach, I'm certain he's looking at the calls like WTF too. Washington is in for a long mini-bye week.

Ron Rivera is observing and approving those play calls being installed on the practice field and in game-planning.

Why some of y’all think that Rivera is a coach that doesn’t work intensely with his coordinators and assistants every damn day of the week and somehow just floats around the periphery of his own team with no involvement and devoid of responsibility is just fugging weird.  

[Neylus]

I recall the announcers commenting on how bad we played that down. Seeing the replay, wow. 

[Verge]

I kind of think this was a miscommunication on the dline. The call makes sense on third and shirt because you want to seal the short end of the field with bodies, I believe one of the lineman that dropped was supposed to rush, and the linebacker blitzing was supposed to confuse the oline into allowing pressure. Not a horrible call, but terrible execution. 

[CatMan72]

On 11/10/2018 at 8:56 AM, tiger7_88 said:

Ron Rivera is observing and approving those play calls being installed on the practice field and in game-planning.

Why some of y’all think that Rivera is a coach that doesn’t work intensely with his coordinators and assistants every damn day of the week and somehow just floats around the periphery of his own team with no involvement and devoid of responsibility is just fugging weird.  

I've been involved in a lot of game planning and you don't go over every single play that will be called (that would be impossible). You mostly discuss concepts based on the opponent and highlight some plays that fit those concepts along with some key situational stuff. It would not only be impossible but totally impractical to discuss every play or even the majority of plays that were going to be called during a game, especially on defense where you're constantly adjusting. 

[RumHam]

Is lovie smith available for a coordinator position? This would make the most sense. Wouldn't be surprised if Ron reaches out after the season if he's still here and we don't completely collapse.

[iamhubby1]

On 11/11/2018 at 6:08 AM, Verge said:

I kind of think this was a miscommunication on the dline. The call makes sense on third and shirt because you want to seal the short end of the field with bodies, I believe one of the lineman that dropped was supposed to rush, and the linebacker blitzing was supposed to confuse the oline into allowing pressure. Not a horrible call, but terrible execution. 

 

    Washington has said it was a miscommunication. But Huddlerz go Huddle and just keep blaming the coaches. Agendas, and all that jazz.

 

    There was supposed to be more than 2 guys rushing on that play. It is possible that the players actually messed up. Right?

 

    Nah, let's just blame the coaches. They are the ones you all want fired anyway. 

[juliosantos]

I use to do that when I was getting crushed in madden

[Eazy-E]

53 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    Washington has said it was a miscommunication. But Huddlerz go Huddle and just keep blaming the coaches. Agendas, and all that jazz.

 

    There was supposed to be more than 2 guys rushing on that play. It is possible that the players actually messed up. Right?

 

    Nah, let's just blame the coaches. They are the ones you all want fired anyway. 

Regardless off communication issues, 3 linemen dropped into coverage and our best cover lb Luke was rushing the passer. I doubt Luke fuged up what he was supposed to be doing which mean Washington asked someone on the D line to drop into coverage and Luke to blitz on a 3rd and fuging 3. Even if one d lineman drops into coverage and Luke still blitzes it's a fuging terrible play call.

There is no positive way to spin something this fuging stupid. 

[Toolbox]

"miscommunication"

[iamhubby1]

16 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

Regardless off communication issues, 3 linemen dropped into coverage and our best cover lb Luke was rushing the passer. I doubt Luke fuged up what he was supposed to be doing which mean Washington asked someone on the D line to drop into coverage and Luke to blitz on a 3rd and fuging 3. Even if one d lineman drops into coverage and Luke still blitzes it's a fuging terrible play call.

There is no positive way to spin something this fuging stupid. 

 

    Hard to debate against someone when they speak in absolutes. 

 

    So blitzing Luke is stupid. Dropping DL into coverage is stupid. Which means, no more Zone Blitzes. I guess we need to go back to rushing just the 4 DL, cuz everything else is, well, stupid.

 

   I guess it is just too easy to blame the coaches. 

 

     After all, there is no way a player made the mistake. 

[Eazy-E]

6 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    Hard to debate against someone when they speak in absolutes. 

 

    So blitzing Luke is stupid. Dropping DL into coverage is stupid. Which means, no more Zone Blitzes. I guess we need to go back to rushing just the 4 DL, cuz everything else is, well, stupid.

 

   I guess it is just too easy to blame the coaches. 

 

     After all, there is no way a player made the mistake. 

No not all the time but in that situation it was. It was third and 3. Dropping linemen into coverage  on 3rd and short is just not smart defensive football.

[iamhubby1]

2 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

No not all the time but in that situation it was. It was third and 3. Dropping linemen into coverage  on 3rd and short is just not smart defensive football.

 

    The thing is, we don't know what would have happened if the play had been run correctly. It is easy in hindsight to pick the play apart. 

 

    At that point in time, with Ben at QB, confusion is probably the only way you stop them. Give him a look he has not seen, make him take that extra second or so to process what is happening. Then maybe, just maybe, you can stop him.

 

    Or not. They were on a roll. That play was a hot mess. The only thing you can take from that play is that our Defense messed up. 

[tiger7_88]

2 hours ago, CatMan72 said:

I've been involved in a lot of game planning and you don't go over every single play that will be called (that would be impossible). You mostly discuss concepts based on the opponent and highlight some plays that fit those concepts along with some key situational stuff. It would not only be impossible but totally impractical to discuss every play or even the majority of plays that were going to be called during a game, especially on defense where you're constantly adjusting. 

So what you're trying to tell me is that Ron Rivera has *not* read Eric Washington's defensive playbook?

Or you're telling me he *did* read it, but was too dumb to understand the breakdown of the "rush one DL and one LB and drop everybody else into useless coverage"?

[tiger7_88]

1 hour ago, Toolbox said:

"miscommunication"

If only those damn players would stop miscommunicating and begin properly executing Genius Ron and his Genius Assistant's Genius Plays dammit!