Reminds me of 2008 playoff game

[RumHam]

Embarrassed on national tv. Sent our franchise into a spiral and exposed. Don't see us winning another game with the film from this.

[Car123]

Defensively, yeah.

[Carl Spackler]

It’s nothing like that at all. Our poor defensive line play, subpar defensive coaching, geriatric safety and inconsistent young corners got our asses kicked. The offense wasn’t good but it wasn’t bad. 

[Seltzer]

30 minutes ago, RumHam said:

Embarrassed on national tv. Sent our franchise into a spiral and exposed. Don't see us winning another game with the film from this.

Decent analogy, conclusion goes way too far...

2 Things:

1) Losing one game on the road on 3 days rest to one of the best teams in the league (while certainly embarrassing), isn't the same as losing a home playoff game after a bye and realizing your previous hopes in your "franchise QB" were evaporating

2) We don't have to linger on this for 9 months and have a very winnable game in 10 days in Detroit.  This team isn't going into a spiral with Cam and this offense

[Snake]

Yes it was very close. Except that game we were beat talent wise. This was all coaching. 

[Seltzer]

18 minutes ago, Snake said:

Yes it was very close. Except that game we were beat talent wise. This was all coaching. 

I agree with you we were beat tonight on coaching, especially on the defensive side, but I think it was coaching as much in 2008 as well.  We had a very talented squad in 2008, but the decision not to make defensive adjustments on Fitzgerald killed us.  

Anyway, that level of getting our ass kicked when we expected something completely different is a lot the same... Crazy how those games seemed to mirror each other (marching down the field and scoring on the opening drive and then complete implosion)

[The Lobo]

59 minutes ago, RumHam said:

Embarrassed on national tv. Sent our franchise into a spiral and exposed. Don't see us winning another game with the film from this.

Didn’t we go right down the field and score on the first drive as well?

[Seltzer]

19 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

Didn’t we go right down the field and score on the first drive as well?

Yes.  Then got the ball back before Jake got the ball stripped deep in our territory which started an implosion. 

[The Lobo]

Just now, Seltzer said:

Yes.  Then got the ball back before Jake got the ball stripped deep in our territory which started an implosion. 

I’ve tried pushing that game out of memory, like I will do with this one.

[juliosantos]

this was wayyyyy worse , i think this was the worst panther game i ever seen 

[Carl Spackler]

Anybody who's been a fan before 2003 will remember many games far worse than this. 

[PanthersBigD]

I agree that there are parallels, but that was a playoff game, so one and done and nothing to do but stew about it all off season. Jake was also on the decline at that point and was not the same the following season. Cam is in his prime. He played well overall last night, he just made a huge mistake in not taking the safety. We have the opportunity to bounce back from this and I think we will. This game reminded me more of the humiliating losses to Philly and Tennessee during our first Super Bowl run. I'm hoping this season has more parallels to 2003 than to 2008 when all is said and done. 

[hepcat]

I thought the same thing, but now I don't think it's even remotely the same. The only thing that is similar is that it's a blowout and the Panthers took an early 7-0 lead, otherwise the differences are staggering.

#1) The Panthers lost in 2008 because of a 7 turnover performance by Jake Delhomme. Cam only turned the ball over once.

#2) Road game on a short week vs Home game after a bye in 2008. Way worse to lose the way the Panthers did after having 2 weeks to prepare for a home game in the playoffs.

#3) Midseason game vs Playoff game. Here's the biggest difference. The Panthers can respond, get better, and rally. If the season had ended like this, I would have been way more upset than I am right now.

#4) 2008 was the end of an era for the Panthers. The 2018 Panthers are in the middle of the Cam Newton and Luke Kuechly era, although maybe closer to the end of the Ron Rivera era if the defense continues to get worse.