UEFA Champions League

[Happy Panther]

Double OK!

[Shocker]

Impressive victory today 

[Shocker]

You have to be kidding me...unbelievably Tott did it

[Ja Rhule]

14 hours ago, Shocker said:

You have to be kidding me...unbelievably Tott did it

They did it so many times this season too... these last seconds goals...

[Ja Rhule]

You got to be kidding me... All English clubs in both finals... CL and Europa... has this ever happen before when one country dominated like that.

[Shocker]

UEFA has been amazing...and a probable PL loser with 97 pts!  Never thought i would see a winner with 97 pts.  Amazing.

Those UEFA come backs are really mind boggling.  

[tiger7_88]

Premiere League football >>>>> All other European leagues.

And IMO for one primary reason: they decided to "broaden" their viewership to the USA many years ago and rode that wave to a whole lotta more dollars for their teams.

More $$$ = Better players.

Its science.

[Goondal]

17 hours ago, ARSEN said:

You got to be kidding me... All English clubs in both finals... CL and Europa... has this ever happen before when one country dominated like that.

They did not have all four but you could certainly make the argument for La Liga in 15/16

Real defeated Atleti in the CL final and Sevilla defeated Liverpool.  

Barca, Athletic Bilbao, and Valencia were all knocked out of their respective competitions by other La Liga teams.  Only Villereal (who was knocked out by Liverpool in the UEL SF) was defeated by a team for another country.

I do not believe it is necessarily better but I would argue it is equally as impressive, they just got unlucky draws and were matched up together earlier.  Both are completely dominant.

[Shocker]

16 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

Premiere League football >>>>> All other European leagues.

And IMO for one primary reason: they decided to "broaden" their viewership to the USA many years ago and rode that wave to a whole lotta more dollars for their teams.

More $$$ = Better players.

Its science.

Amazing to me that Pool has lost 1 game all season and will finish second.  Jeez

[tiger7_88]

21 hours ago, Shocker said:

Amazing to me that Pool has lost 1 game all season and will finish second.  Jeez

Man City is quite simply the best team in the world.  Yes, they seem to struggle in the CL, but the CL is a different cat than the long slog of the PL.  Over the long haul, Man City, with its depth of top-quality players two-deep at every position, is built for success.  In the CL anything can happen over a two-game series.  

I've heard a lot of my fellow Pool fans complain "Oh, if we'd only did this or if we'd only not tied this team or that team we would have won!"  Well, yeah, that's true, but City have their own set of "What ifs?" as well, such as "What if Kevin De Bruyne hadn't been injured for most of the season?"

So you can nit-pick both sides, but the fact is that City is a better squad.  Are their best players better than Pool's best players?  Probably not.  BUT THEY HAVE MORE OF THEM.  Is Pep better than Klopp?  Maybe if you take track record into account.  But I absolutely think Klopp gets more out of his players than any manager in the world.  City doesn't have better players than Pool, they just have MORE OF THEM.  Frankly, I'm amazed Pool has been able to keep it this close over 37 games (to this point) taking that into consideration.

Maybe Brighton can pull off a miracle tomorrow.  That would be nice.

 

[pantherphan96]

On 5/11/2019 at 10:37 AM, tiger7_88 said:

Man City is quite simply the best team in the world.  Yes, they seem to struggle in the CL, but the CL is a different cat than the long slog of the PL.  Over the long haul, Man City, with its depth of top-quality players two-deep at every position, is built for success.  In the CL anything can happen over a two-game series.  

I've heard a lot of my fellow Pool fans complain "Oh, if we'd only did this or if we'd only not tied this team or that team we would have won!"  Well, yeah, that's true, but City have their own set of "What ifs?" as well, such as "What if Kevin De Bruyne hadn't been injured for most of the season?"

So you can nit-pick both sides, but the fact is that City is a better squad.  Are their best players better than Pool's best players?  Probably not.  BUT THEY HAVE MORE OF THEM.  Is Pep better than Klopp?  Maybe if you take track record into account.  But I absolutely think Klopp gets more out of his players than any manager in the world.  City doesn't have better players than Pool, they just have MORE OF THEM.  Frankly, I'm amazed Pool has been able to keep it this close over 37 games (to this point) taking that into consideration.

Maybe Brighton can pull off a miracle tomorrow.  That would be nice.

 

If you could only take 3 players from either team, I think City's 3 would be better than Liverpool's. Agree about the main difference being the depth of the squads.

[tiger7_88]

14 hours ago, pantherphan96 said:

If you could only take 3 players from either team, I think City's 3 would be better than Liverpool's. Agree about the main difference being the depth of the squads.

Agree to disagree.

I think MC's best 3 players (when healthy) are De Bruyne, Aguero (2014-15 Golden Boot), and Sterling.

Liverpool's best 3 players are Van Dijk (2018-19 Player of the Season), Salah (2017-18 Player of the Season, 2017-18 and 2018-19 Golden Boot), and Mane (2018-19 Golden Boot).

All are absolute world-class players and any difference in total level of quality of each set of three would just be niggling.

[Ja Rhule]

3 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

Agree to disagree.

I think MC's best 3 players (when healthy) are De Bruyne, Aguero (2014-15 Golden Boot), and Sterling.

Liverpool's best 3 players are Van Dijk (2018-19 Player of the Season), Salah (2017-18 Player of the Season, 2017-18 and 2018-19 Golden Boot), and Mane (2018-19 Golden Boot).

All are absolute world-class players and any difference in total level of quality of each set of three would just be niggling.

Liverpool have a great system.  They took average players and made them great.  I think if Liverpool D sucked, the result would be very different.

[tiger7_88]

12 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

Liverpool have a great system.  They took average players and made them great. 

And if you have great players in a great system, you can challenge the best team in the PL for the league title until Championship weekend, make two consecutive CL finals, and hopefully bring the cup home on June 1st this time.

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I think if Liverpool D sucked, the result would be very different.

Liverpool's D in 2017-18 *did* suck and they ended the season 3rd in the table.