I've seen enough. Hurney, do it.

[CPcavedweller]

9 hours ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

There's no excuse not to support him.  Political views aside. He's a panther and he's definitely doing work back there. He's brought attitude to that anemic secondary ans with Donte being full of swagger and confidence,  it's only solidified the secondary. We may not have an elite secondary but we certainly don't have chumps back there.  They are geling at the right time ans are only going to get better as they play together. Donte,  Adams, Reid, Bradberry  are becoming familiar with each other and are definitely feeding off each other. They are learning each others nuances that it is almost like they know where they will be at all times.  I'd hate to see that disappear within the next 6 months. Hurney needs to do it. 

Considering North Carolina has the most active duty military members of any state in the Union, there are many reasons he could rub people the wrong way. No one has to support him and plenty likely have good excuses.

Personally, I don't know that I like him as a person after the Malcom Jenkins fiasco but he is a good player. I'm for good players on the team and despite the manner in which he tries to affect change, his play is more important to me. I would hope he spends some time in the community and learns from Cam on how to affect positive change without being as abrasive and divisive as he is. He seems more like a Black Panther Party leader than a Community Organizer type. 

[CPcavedweller]

29 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

You are stuck in the concrete operational stage, where if you can't touch, see it, or measure it, it does not exist.  You just demonstrated it in your assumptions about me--I  am a registered republican who does not watch FOX news...How quickly you label others, you wise adult.

I am a registered unaffiliated with other selected as Race. I implore you all do to the same thing. Don't be part of the cog. Without that data, the politicians will truly have to apply their policy propositions to all people rather than who they see as being registered with whatever party. 

As for the plight of Black Americans (I refuse to say African because no one refers to me as European American, lets stay consistent here) and the systemic oppression. Oppression is an issue of socioeconomic status and has been since this Country was founded. Part of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington's concern following the conclusion of the Revolutionary War was how societal norms would change in a system in which average citizens had a say in politics. A situation in which the poor could rise to prominence in political arenas, could change socioeconomic classes, differences between Planting class and the industrial class shrunk, and all how to keep the Country from falling apart due to these changes. People didn't have mobility because debt had become an inheritance, wealth was a genetic trait, and people in general were restricted to remaining with their caste.

The fact of the matter is that the ability to rise from nothing is present in the U.S. like no where else in the world. Jeff Bezos, Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerburg all began businesses out of nothing. They are now looked at as evil because of the amount of money they have. However, Democrats should prop them up, if their messaging is that of positivism because they are living proof of the American Dream being present in today's society. Instead, they want to re-introduce regulations, repeal tax cuts, increase taxes on those who work to pay for a program that will cost approximately $35 Trillion over 10 years. This is a situation that introduces systemic oppression by limiting opportunities for people to rise out of nothing. To gain skills and subsequent employment with increasing wages. 

Last point to make, there is a difference between diversity of thought and diversity of skin color. Democrats want to consolidate and remove thought diversity. Trump points out how one side CNN, PMSNBC, ABC, CBS, NPR, and PBS are yet the Left portends to be for inclusive thought and diversity of opinion. Yet, on these stations, they present no diversity of opinion and use Diversity in Skin Tone to create a facad that their commentators come from different backgrounds. However, they all have the same thought process, belief system, and derangement from losing in 2016. Diversity of Thought would be far more important to actually having constructive discussions that would inform viewers and be more representative of the population at large. 

Side Note: I heard someone compare Rick De Santis to a Chimpanzee on CNN today. Needless to say, no one really commented and he doubled down on that comparison. 

[top dawg]

I remember supposedly knowledgeable Huddlers told me that Reid "is just not that good," or "is average," or "he sucks." Of course I told them that they didn't know what they were talking about and that the deal with him has always been about the concussions (like is with 59). Is the reward worth the risk? For the right price, I'd say that it is.

[rodeo]

2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Problem signing him is paying him what he thinks he is worth. He signed here for a good price because it was here or likely nowhere. Now that we signed him and he is performing, it may make other teams more likely to sign him as well. I doubt we can sign him to a reasonable contract if he thinks he can do better in free agency.  He seems loyal to his cause but not sure about loyalties toward a team. 

every team knew he could perform already when they weren't signing him. he was a pro bowl caliber safety, he wasn't sitting at home because he suddenly got bad.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, micnificent28 said:

That said Reid’s play could open doors to places that ignored him before because they see the blowback from doors to places that ignored him before because they see the blowback from having him kneel isn’t as bad as having a hole in your secondary. All it takes is one to show the rest he is worth the risk.

Possibly. Staying healthy would be a big deal too.

1 hour ago, CRA said:

also, let's pump the breaks on Reid.  I still say his 2 plays the last two weeks getting the hype have been Charles Godfrey specials.   Those type players didn't make Godfrey good.  Reid still is a shell of what he was and that should be expected so I am not dogging him for that. 

Let's see what people think of his play after the Steelers game. A true test.  Good QB with 2 great WRs and a great RB.  Which means S play will be big. 

Valid point. People have a habit of only looking at the highlight reels and not seeing the whole picture. Godfrey was a prime example.

[Everfrost]

Don't think we will do anything til after the season. If he test free agency and other teams are still snowballing him it could be beneficial for us and a cap friendly deal. But I think we end up going with the draft pick.

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

this team does not value secondary enough to keep elite talent around. say bye bye to eric reid and hello to charles godfrey level talent in 2019

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

this team does not value secondary enough to keep elite talent around. say bye bye to eric reid and hello to charles godfrey level talent in 2019

You remember the contract they offered Godfrey?

The thought of contract extensions in general makes me nervous right now because those decisions are going to be made my two people whose personnel evaluation skills are suspect.

[Car123]

14 minutes ago, Billy_T said:

 

Plagiarism......the easy out dolts routinely take.

Prove your argument.

[Car123]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You remember the contract they offered Godfrey?

The thought of contract extensions in general makes me nervous right now because those decisions are going to be made my two people whose personnel evaluation skills are suspect.

Hurney 2.0's contract extensions have been exceptional.

[Car123]

Just now, Billy_T said:

You have heard the screed, right?

What did he say?

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Hurney 2.0's contract extensions have been exceptional.

Hurney 2.0s contract extensions from last season were largely already negotiated before he took over.

[Car123]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Hurney 2.0s contract extensions from last season were largely already negotiated before he took over.

Gettleman was reluctant to extend Olsen and Davis . The two have been two of our most important players. People wanted R. Kalil cut, but Hurney 2.0 knew his value and it's paying off. His evaluation skills are underappreciated.

[LegioX]

2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

You are stuck in the concrete operational stage, where if you can't touch, see it, or measure it, it does not exist.  You just demonstrated it in your assumptions about me--I  am a registered republican who does not watch FOX news...How quickly you label others, you wise adult.

Don’t go on crazy ass rants and maybe I will not label you as such. I say one word “disagree” and you turn it into a white supremacy rant. 

Just by the way you respond to people who disagree with you, you are definitely not the adult.