The Ringer rings true! The evolution is/should be real!

[Hoenheim]

4 hours ago, top dawg said:

Weak line? Even the article touches ever so slightly on the fact that the line is not weak. And it's not. Matsko obviously had something to work with, and it's working.

they have been giving cam an incredible amount of time to throw 

[bigdavis]

This new offense of Norv's will continue to evolve, IMO.

Opposing DCs will game plan to counter the previous week's Panther offensive successes, and then they'll get blindsided by new wrinkles.  Just as Baltimore's (top rated?) defense was steamrolled last week (recall the Jimmie Smith bitchslap analogy?  Now you see it, now you don't), TB will pay a price this Sunday.

As soon as opposing safeties start to cheat up to the line, the deep passes will come out of nowhere, and all these concerns about Cam's shoulder will evaporate, as did the old concerns about the multitude of OL injuries, CMC can't run up the middle, Ron doesn't replace his vets (where's Amini and Coleman?), etc.

Plenty of pleasant surprises to come, and with Pitt coming up Thursday, even more new wrinkles for them, too.

Still plenty of room on the bandwagon, but make your reservations soon, as space will become limited, after we are 7-2.

[lightsout]

I said it in the preseason, we're playing the long game with play calling. We're going with base plays and every week there's either a new personnel grouping or formation variation. We're slowly showing our hand, and I think that's due to how the final month shakes out schedule wise, not to mention playoffs if we get there.

[arbnranger]

Looking pretty good. 

[Lumps]

Our offensive line is not at all weak compared with the rest of the NFL, especially the last few games. Not close. That’s a fact.

Any NFL line will have to play above average when a 7 step drop play is called and even then it’s risky. Cam’s oline has been playing good to great.

I’m really beginning to believe there are more casual fans on this site than fans who actually understand the sport.

[Bartin]

4 hours ago, jumpman910 said:

Legit article but it does help that Danny Kelly is a North Carolinian and a panthers fan 

I thought he was a Seahawks fan. Didn’t he come from their SBNation site?

[L-TownCat]

10 hours ago, top dawg said:

the way things were pre-Smith-injury?

I read that whole thing and my petty ass brain locked on this harmless phrase and through some self inflicted Jedi mind fart told me it said "pre-Smitty-injury".

Like, its in control.  The Smitty Derangement Syndrome has damaged my psyche permanently.

 

 

....*sigh* ....I miss Smitty....

[Smithers]

13 hours ago, Pantera said:

The line hasn't looked very weak to me.

Because Norv is smart enough to call short developing plays, bubble screens, and double and triple options. 

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, Smithers said:

Because Norv is smart enough to call short developing plays, bubble screens, and double and triple options. 

Maybe, just maybe, an OC is supposed to call plays that set up his offensive line for success. 

Good OCs know how to maximize efficiency, run plays that work, adapt when things are not working, and keep the opposition off balance.

[Smithers]

2 hours ago, top dawg said:

Maybe, just maybe, an OC is supposed to call plays that set up his offensive line for success. 

Good OCs know how to maximize efficiency, run plays that work, adapt when things are not working, and keep the opposition off balance.

Yep...

a good OC can mask deficiencies. 

[Ricky Spanish]

This is essentially the same thing I posted the other day, just with way more depth and better accompanying gifs to illustrate why the stats are the way they are. 

I've been plagiarized and improved upon. Not even mad. Glad someone was able to better illustrate what I was looking at. 

[mc52beast]

So what he’s saying is we need Shula back

[TheSpecialJuan]

23 hours ago, top dawg said:

Danny Kelly of The Ringer gives plenty of analysis as to how the Panthers offense has evolved under Norv Turner. If anyone still has notions of our offense based upon receivers that can't get open, questionable O-line play, or simple predictability, this article should dispel it.

http://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/11/1/18051330/carolina-panthers-fantasy-offense

 

"The Panthers offense reached a near-perfect equilibrium on Sunday. They mixed speed with power. They threw 30 times for 232 yards and two touchdowns and ran the ball 33 times for 154 yards and two scores. They ran the ball and then threw off play-action, and then used the passing game to set up more runs. They used inside rushes to set up RPOs and screen plays that attacked outside, and they used jet sweeps and pre-snap orbit motion to get the defense flowing outside before attacking the middle. Newton got just about everyone involved and seven separate Carolina players caught a pass. When he wasn’t looking to McCaffrey, Moore, and Samuel (three catches for 28 yards), he targeted Funchess (three catches, 27 yards) and Greg Olsen (four catches, 56 yards, one touchdown) in the intermediate area.

"The only thing still missing from the Panthers’ offensive assault is the deep passing game. Newton has completed just five passes of 20-plus yards this year, which ranks 29th out of 38 qualifying passers, per PFF, and until Torrey Smith returns from a knee injury sustained in Week 7, that may not change. But based on what we saw Sunday, the lack of a deep passing attack may not matter. Instead of sitting in the pocket and waiting for deeper plays to develop, Newton is taking what’s there for him underneath. He’s like the point guard in the Carolina scheme, and distributes the ball to his playmakers so they can pick up explosive plays in space. That’s worked wonders for Newton, and it perfectly fits what run-after-the-catch specialists like Moore and Samuel bring to the offense. Smith’s injury forced that dynamic receiver duo into bigger roles, and it gave us a glimpse of what this Panthers offense should look like."

http://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/11/1/18051330/carolina-panthers-fantasy-offense

 

McCaffrey, Moore and Samuel should be The three other cornerstones in addition to Cam on this offense. And, no, I am not saying that Olsen and Funchess don't have important roles, because everyone plays their part, but what I am saying is that unless Rivera and Turner are blind, how can you go back to the way things were pre-Smith-injury? Danny Kelly insinuated that the first part of this season was Turner and company figuring things out. Well, if this past Sunday was the culmination of Turner's experiments, then he should have things about figured out. Let's hope that he and Rivera are on the same page as this article.

this was a great read, thanks 

[Black&BlueBubba]

It’s truly enjoyable to watch as a fan this year over last year.  Last year we tried to pound the same old sorry gameplan weekly.  This year it is a different skill utilized each week.  CMC catches 15 passes then the next week runs all over.  Then a bunch of jet sweep runs and spreading another defense silly.  We haven the seen a ton of WR screens yet, but I think that is coming as a big part of offense to get the ball in playmakers hands. Every week seems like there is actually some thought to how to attack a defense.  Refreshing.