pff is still trying to sell the narrative cam is inaccurate and bad

[JARROD]

59 minutes ago, Delhommey said:

Thaaaaaaaaaat's not exactly how probabilities work.

Care to clarify?

[sharkkiller]

They actually said and I quote, " The Panthers generally outplay their PFF grades."

 

How in the blue hell would that be possible, when the grades are based on how they play? That is like taking a test in Chemistry, and saying that I answered questions correctly better than my failing grade shows.

 

A prime example of why PFF is garbage.

[stratopanther]

I mean, the mccaffrey touchdown shoulda been an int. I know from listening to their podcasts that these types of throws are taken into consideration. Not every media outlet that paints our team negatively has some agenda against us. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

4 hours ago, Car123 said:

Idiots 

Exact words I had to say for that... What a moronic statement.  You could blame Shula more for his inaccuracy than Cam. You can also blame the fact that we had some abysmal receivers who dropped more than the average team does.

 

[sharkkiller]

3 minutes ago, stratopanther said:

I mean, the mccaffrey touchdown shoulda been an int. I know from listening to their podcasts that these types of throws are taken into consideration. Not every media outlet that paints our team negatively has some agenda against us. 

You can't take a supposition and say it is a fact, and base your rankings around it. That simply means that the entire rating system is subjective, and way too many media outlets, and fans take it as an objective statistical analysis.

[DaveThePanther2008]

3 minutes ago, stratopanther said:

I mean, the mccaffrey touchdown shoulda been an int. I know from listening to their podcasts that these types of throws are taken into consideration. Not every media outlet that paints our team negatively has some agenda against us. 

No it shouldn't have been.  McCaffrey had the best opportunity to catch it of anyone.  The ball bounces different ways and many teams benefit offensively from a tipped ball to another player.

Mark it as payback.  Remember Smitty had a tipped ball for a TD the last time we played them.

[CPantherKing]

Just now, stratopanther said:

I mean, the mccaffrey touchdown shoulda been an int. I know from listening to their podcasts that these types of throws are taken into consideration. Not every media outlet that paints our team negatively has some agenda against us. 

The McCaffery TD would have had a higher likelihood of being an INT if the player was not skilled, conditioned, and trained like McCaffery.

That play happened because of McCaffery and his years of training with his regime. He just reacted and trusted all the hours of practice over his life to make that play. His ability to track the ball on any play (even if it is not his) makes him dangerous. The same way Kuechly has trained his step. The same way Tom Brady got good.

McCaffrey wins a tip drill 9 out of 10 times, and it will not be an INT. On the other hand, a player like KB loses that tip drill 9 out of 10 times and it is very likely an INT.

PFF clearly has an agenda against the Panthers, because the Panthers have so many variables that they blow up all the historical data PFF uses. PFF will always over inflate a player like Brees and Brady while undercutting a player like Cam Newton. It is all about how they want to apply their data science.

[SZ James (banned)]

the title seems purposely misleading since they never said that cam is bad or that he's incapable of being the best as a whole

[Delhommey]

42 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Care to clarify?

Increasing the probability of winning =/= guaranteeing a win.

 

[Eazy-E]

"there were stretches of this game where nobody had any idea where the ball was going" What kind of moronic statement is this? Cam was 21 for 29 dipshit.

Stop posting PFF stuff and giving their site clicks. They fuging suck and anyone that actually pays for that garbage needs to get a refund.

[beastson]

Lol people said I was overreacting in this thread

A so called panthers fan even had the nerve to poo on my post

[RumHam]

1 hour ago, CPantherKing said:

I deal with this constantly in my line of work.

Engineers, mathematicians, and scientists want to rely on the numbers and shrink the percentage of error. Then they want to claim the numbers from the sample size are accurate and we can trust in them with a .3% error or less.

Truth is quantified samples only account for 93% of the equation when you apply them to anything outside observable physical limitations. The other 7% is unbounded consciousness or impalpable energy.

That 7% we cannot perceive makes up 93% of everything.

So, whenever you deal with a human being in the simulated environment of data, The error can be anywhere from 7 to 10%.

So, if the stats tell you that going for it on 4th down is anything less than 80%, it is extremely risky since the negative impact will have a 13x impact on your team over a positive one.

This is where knowing how self-efficacy and group-efficacy work in your evaluations of an individual/group. A fairly easy example to look for in football is the team that goes up by 3 points in the game. The negative impact of going up by 3 points is much greater than the perceived 3 point lead on the board - unless it is in the last 4 minutes of the game. In the first 56 minutes of a game, it is more beneficial for a team to go for the TD than take the FG if the outcome of that FG is a 1 to 3 point lead. Also, a team is better off to kick the FG and tie the game than it is to score a TD if that TD would result in a 1 to 3 point lead.

Bertrand Russel wrote, "Science may set limits to knowledge, but should not set limits to imagination."

I have mastered this little known and rarely applied universal concept. This is why I am good at evaluating talent/skill, assessing risk, and growing value.

For the Huddle that loves to Huddle, Bertrand Russell wrote, "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."

PFF sells it's product based on data science while ignoring the immense human component in sports. However, people who do not want to think will run to their information and throw around the stats like they are Newton's laws of motion.

 

[RumHam]

12 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

"there were stretches of this game where nobody had any idea where the ball was going" What kind of moronic statement is this? Cam was 21 for 29 dipshit.

Stop posting PFF stuff and giving their site clicks. They fuging suck and anyone that actually pays for that garbage needs to get a refund.

Exactly this. Ban all PFF related postings.

[RumHam]

Because if the line gets good grades, they'll say Cam played well b/c he was given protection. Which may be the case, but them saying that continues their narrative. #fakenews #sad