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Fire Rivera fanboys must be on vacation


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The brilliant Ron Rivera who pounds our second most valuable player on offense up the middle to burn clock instead of using CJ.

The great Rivera who has to be constantly reminded by fans and local media that Curtis Samuel exists.

Ol Riverboat Ron who bounced a ball into DJ Moore's hands, drew up a tipped TD pass to McCaffery, and totally thought up that trick play to end the half.

Ya'll need better standards than "he didn't ruin the game."

Samuel had a heart condition, he was inactive for weeks lmao

 

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2 hours ago, rhyslloyd said:

Torrey Smith will be right back out there when he's healthy.  Zebras never lose their stripes, and Ron will always go back to his antiquated, tentative coaching style unless he's forced to do otherwise.  

What part of Rivera doesn't decide who plays where and when don't you seem to get. Norv controls the offense not Rivera. This same comment is naive at best but keeps getting repeated. 

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49 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Rivera has his Marty Ball moments but this season we have a lot of new pieces and it takes awhile to gel and find the true identity of the team.

coaches have what they want, and players trying to fit in, but then coaches get forced to adapt to what they have and players start getting comfortable in their roles,..

in short,.. we’ve always been a second half team, and as someone I know said this weekend, the seasons we make it are because we survived the early ugly games. The seasons we don’t we didn’t.

this season so far we have and now the team is starting to peak right on schedule

Your right. Folks seem to forget that Cockrell and Searcy are out for the year and Davis was suspended 4 games. The O line has been a patchwork of mixing pieces to make it work.

At the end of preseason most reasonable folks would have been joyous to be 5-2. 

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3 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

And this...

I've maintained, when his ass was put on the line, that was the only reason Riverboat ever became a thing.  He was a week, or maybe less, from losing his job, and he had nothing to lose, so he played to win.

But, then, when he gets some security and starts getting comfortable again, he tries to revert back to playing not to lose and micromanaging and bogging down the offense in the process.

Cam showed him up again in Philly once he was given autonomy over the offense, then the questions came, he felt a little heat again, and what do you know?  We come out aggressive and Cam running the offense uptempo.  

So again, I give him credit for doing the right thing there...  but as others have mentioned, it's still an ugly truth that DJ and Curtis have been sitting behind Torrey all year, and once they're given extended opportunities in his absence, which took the decision out of Ron's hands, they also show him up.  That's why people criticize Ron.

Be aggressive.  Play the best players.  Be consistent...  that's all we ask.  And it's all we've been asking for years.

This is what frustrates the living hell out of me with Rivera.

We've all seen how much better he is at his job when he coaches aggressively. Why does it seem like he's the only one who doesn't understand this?

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And the whole Rivera should have had his coordinators going full strength from day 1 is ridiculous to be nice. We have new coordinators in all three phases of the game. And 2 of the 3 are first time coordinators. They are improving and learning who they have and who they can count on as their key personnel. This team is trending forward and improving each week. Props to Rivera to manage these pieces and the team to a 5-2 record so far. If Rivera's critics actually understood the coaching process they wouldn't make so many naive proclamations and comments.

He loses coordinaters every year for head coaching jobs across the league. He had 3 gm changes, and 2 owner changes, and inherited the worst cap situation I've ever seen ever. All the while keeping his teams as a top contender in the NFL. The 1 consistent this team has always had has been Rivera. It's actually mind blowing to see people not understand any aspect of how to be a successful coach under these circumstances. You know you are listening to a fool(nicest term I will use)if they want to fire Rivera over timeouts or 1 non aggressive call in a game. 

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2 minutes ago, Definitely Not Trolling said:

He loses coordinaters every year for head coaching jobs across the league. He had 3 gm changes, and 2 owner changes, and inherited the worst cap situation I've ever seen ever. All the while keeping his teams as a top contender in the NFL. The 1 consistent this team has always had has been Rivera. It's actually mind blowing to see people not understand any aspect of how to be a successful coach under these circumstances. You know you are listening to a fool(nicest term I will use)if they want to fire Rivera over timeouts or 1 non aggressive call in a game

Rivera has only seen two GM changes, and unless Jerry Richardson sold the team to somebody else who sold it to David Tepper, only one owner change.

Neither did he "inherit the worst cap situation ever". That didn't occur until he was already two years in.

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Rivera has only seen two GM changes, and unless Jerry Richardson sold the team to somebody else who sold it to David Tepper, only one owner change.

Neither did he "inherit the worst cap situation ever". That didn't occur until he was already two years in.

That was already in the making from delhomme Stewart beason and DeAngelo contracts. He didn't sign those guys, hurney did. And he has seen 3 GM changes, hurney been there twice and gettlemania 1 time.

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Sounds pretty standard on what any team would have to deal with. Bottom line is you have to take risk to win in this league and being afraid to let rivera go because of potential weaknesses of another coach is similar to the conservative thinking he coaches this team by. Plus there is no guarantee Rivera would go to another team and have success like he has had with this one. 

The devil you know is better than the devil you don't.

How many teams have shuttled coaches only to unload the next has-to-be-better-than guy too because the grass wasn't greener on the other side. I understand taking risks, but you take risks to win. Ron as a HC has won almost 60% of his games. In the NFL, that's pretty good. Why people want to mess with that eludes me. Hire a new guy, hire new problems. You're unlikely to find another Belichick. You're much more likely to find the next guy you fire pretty quickly.

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The devil you know is better than the devil you don't.

How many teams have shuttled coaches only to unload the next has-to-be-better-than guy too because the grass wasn't greener on the other side. I understand taking risks, but you take risks to win. Ron as a HC has won almost 60% of his games. In the NFL, that's pretty good. Why people want to mess with that eludes me. Hire a new guy, hire new problems. You're unlikely to find another Belichick. You're much more likely to find the next guy you fire pretty quickly.

this. rivera frustrates me at times with his lack of aggression, but i think learning to be aggressive is much easier than finding a coach that is at least as good as him; much less a better coach.  rash decisions tend to backfire and rarely work out.  take the browns, for example.

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