Fire Rivera fanboys must be on vacation

[rhyslloyd]

Torrey Smith will be right back out there when he's healthy.  Zebras never lose their stripes, and Ron will always go back to his antiquated, tentative coaching style unless he's forced to do otherwise.  

[Toomers]

45 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Ahh I see you joined in 2015 when we had our best season to date.

So go back and you start from D1S1 of the RR era and then when you're caught up go ahead and quote and answer your own post.

  So you’re answer is to deflect from the question and go after my join date? Like that was the first day I watched the Panthers? 

  What from the day Rivera got here do you want to discuss? I became a fan the day Cam was drafted. Have always said so. What does any of this have to do with your  ridiculous statements?

[mc52beast]

Haters will be back when Ron starts Kalil and screws up the o-line chemistry 

[MechaZain]

The brilliant Ron Rivera who pounds our second most valuable player on offense up the middle to burn clock instead of using CJ.

The great Rivera who has to be constantly reminded by fans and local media that Curtis Samuel exists.

Ol Riverboat Ron who bounced a ball into DJ Moore's hands, drew up a tipped TD pass to McCaffery, and totally thought up that trick play to end the half.

Ya'll need better standards than "he didn't ruin the game."

[Darvinsun]

 

Like every coach, Rivera has his strengths and weaknesses, but I've never understood the venom he gets. (from some)

Look at the Panthers winning percentage since he's come on board. We've had a Super Bowl appearance, numerous post-season appearances, etc.

I get that he makes some questionable game management decisions (or lack thereof) at times, but he really excels at creating cohesion and belief - building an inspired team, and that is obviously a valuable skill. Many coaches that have been around their team for as long as Rivera have lost the ear of the players. That is CLEARLY not the case with the Panthers. Guys play for him. He's a leader.

That' nice and all but I want a SB for the team. I want a coach that will not get out coached. I want a coach who learns and gets better at his craft and then eventually when it comes down to critical situations he is putting faith in the correct players hands, not just staying to this is what I do mantra. It' s hard to watch other teams go for it on 4th and 3 and we won't on 4th and less than a yard. With Cam as your QB.

[Darvinsun]

Having new coordinators has nothing to do with it Shula was here for most of the Cam yrs and same process .MC Dermot same process.

[SuperCamDaGawd]

So I'll say this. Ron is a good dude, but he is TERRIBLE when it comes time management. He's also terrible when it comes to making the hard decision on personnel and staff decisions. Anyone watching yesterday's game should be pissed. We have one of the greatest talents at the QB position. He has been basically held back by coaching. If Ron didn't have this whole "vet love affair" then the history of the last couple seasons look different. 

So while any fans want to win, I believe it is kind of cloudy to look at this team and not want this consistently. 

Just my 2 cents

[Semaj]

9 hours ago, Definitely Not Trolling said:

Y'all quiet as a church mouse. 5-2

It's one game Einstein.  We will be quiet if he coaches like this for now on.  I don't think he will though.  It was a nice change in philosophy.  You know throwing from your end zone on second down for a 30 yard gain or whatever it was instead of running it 3 times up the middle knowing you will be punting out of your end zone even before the first play was ran.  We shall see.  But yes, there is nothing to complain about his coaching today.  He did an outstanding job and gets full credit.

[run-run-pass-punt]

 

All of this is absolutely important for a winning team, but it doesn't mean anything if you blow it with questionable in-game decisions and terrible personnel decisions.  the game is won on the field in those 60 minutes - you play to win the game.  with that said, i hope yesterday is the start of a trend - aggressiveness all game on both sides of the ball until the other team quits. it was the only missing piece and if ron can maintain this mentality, this team is unstoppable.

You're going to have to take the good with the bad with any coach. If you (fire Ron) lose the weaknesses of Ron, you are also giving up his strengths - strengths which have helped build a team that has a .580 winning percentage, 3 division titles and a Super Bowl appearance in his 7+ seasons.

If you bring in a new coach, you may get new strengths, but you're also getting new weaknesses.

[OceanPanther]

"  all think they can coach and cook a steak "

[JARROD]

Rivera has his Marty Ball moments but this season we have a lot of new pieces and it takes awhile to gel and find the true identity of the team.

coaches have what they want, and players trying to fit in, but then coaches get forced to adapt to what they have and players start getting comfortable in their roles,..

in short,.. we’ve always been a second half team, and as someone I know said this weekend, the seasons we make it are because we survived the early ugly games. The seasons we don’t we didn’t.

this season so far we have and now the team is starting to peak right on schedule

[billionairemonk]

 

You're going to have to take the good with the bad with any coach. If you (fire Ron) lose the weaknesses of Ron, you are also giving up his strengths - strengths which have helped build a team that has a .580 winning percentage, 3 division titles and a Super Bowl appearance in his 7+ seasons.

If you bring in a new coach, you may get new strengths, but you're also getting new weaknesses.

absolutely.  you can check my post history, i've never advocated for firing ron for the reasons you stated.  he has built a great team and a solid foundation for success - disciplined team, tough and minimal mistakes.  i've always felt he was missing a small piece - aggressiveness the entire game.  this is something that can be learned.  being a good leader, having players respect you and wanting to play hard for you is something that cannot be learned and ron has that in spades.

[Definitely Not Trolling]

 

Yep, considering the explanations post-game, Ron fell into a pig sty at the end of the first half and came out spotlessly clean and smelling like a rose somehow, lol.  I'm sure the Rivera Fan Club will attribute all of that to his genius though.

And that utterly confused defense with players wandering and not knowing where they should be coming out of a called time out in the 1st half (on the Raven's offense 4th down attempt) I'm sure was somehow genius too.

As well as the utterly confused offense with players wandering and not knowing where they should be coming out of a called time out in the 1st half.

All according to plan, I'm sure.

So u guys roast him for not using timeouts, then you roast him for using timeouts. Damned if he do and damned if he dont

[CPF4LIFE]

51 minutes ago, run-run-pass-punt said:

You're going to have to take the good with the bad with any coach. If you (fire Ron) lose the weaknesses of Ron, you are also giving up his strengths - strengths which have helped build a team that has a .580 winning percentage, 3 division titles and a Super Bowl appearance in his 7+ seasons.

If you bring in a new coach, you may get new strengths, but you're also getting new weaknesses.

Sounds pretty standard on what any team would have to deal with. Bottom line is you have to take risk to win in this league and being afraid to let rivera go because of potential weaknesses of another coach is similar to the conservative thinking he coaches this team by. Plus there is no guarantee Rivera would go to another team and have success like he has had with this one.