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Raleigh PF

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11 hours ago, HornetsSting said:

So do tell, must suck being a fan of a team you know are going to go back to being cellar dwellers in about two more seasons when your QB hangs it up while our QB is still in the prime of his career with years left to dominate.

Not really. I mean after all, according to you guys, we’re just a “dink and dump” offense anyway, right? Any QB with average accuracy can thrive in our offense. :tongue:

But nah, especially if it nets us another Super Bowl in the process.

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Just now, Iron Saint said:

Not really. I mean after all, according to you guys, we’re just a “dink and dump” offense anyway, right? Any QB with average accuracy can thrive in our offense. :tongue:

But nah, especially if it nets us another Super Bowl in the process.

If the Saints do win the Super Bowl, I don't think next year will be the "Brees" you would want it to be. Drew could be looking to ride off into the sunset.

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3 minutes ago, Raleigh PF said:

If the Saints do win the Super Bowl, I don't think next year will be the "Brees" you would want it to be. Drew could be looking to ride off into the sunset.

He’s pretty much all but said this year won’t be his last, Super Bowl or not. 

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23 minutes ago, Iron Saint said:

He’s pretty much all but said this year won’t be his last, Super Bowl or not. 

Then he would be real stupid. I would say the same to Brady. You quit like Elway when you are on top not when you start to fade. No telling if he would make it back.

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2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Then he would be real stupid. I would say the same to Brady. You quit like Elway when you are on top not when you start to fade. No telling if he would make it back.

So because he “went out on top”, does that make Elway’s legacy greater than say Montana’s who decided to keep playing until he couldn’t? I don’t think it does.

No one keeps themselves in the kind of shape Brees does. No one, not even Brady.

1 hour ago, mc52beast said:

If we go 2 down to the Aints the division is theirs, no way we beat them twice. Unless the Aints struggle and start losing games we don’t have many games we can afford to lose.

Eh, we don’t put that much stock into that. We were 3 games up on y’all after Week 6 in 2013 at 5-1 to 2-3 and still lost the division with only losing to y’all once. I won’t feel comfortable with the division lead unless if we can only lose once (maybe twice) between now and the time we play y’all in Charlotte and win that one too. That’d put us at 12-2 or 11-3 with two games to go.

Other than that, y’all certainly have the potential to sneak up again.

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58 minutes ago, Iron Saint said:

Eh, we don’t put that much stock into that. We were 3 games up on y’all after Week 6 in 2013 at 5-1 to 2-3 and still lost the division with only losing to y’all once. I won’t feel comfortable with the division lead unless if we can only lose once (maybe twice) between now and the time we play y’all in Charlotte and win that one too. That’d put us at 12-2 or 11-3 with two games to go.

Other than that, y’all certainly have the potential to sneak up again.

Man that was a great division race.  Hell, I'd have just been happy with a wildcard at that point that year.  With the way the refs screwed us against the 49ers in the divisional playoffs we might have even been better off with a wildcard.  Could have kept momentum instead of dealing with a bye and I felt pretty confident about beating Seattle in a rematch... provided the refs didn't screw us like they did against the 49ers... which I'm sure they would have tried.  They reeeaaallly wanted that Seahawks/49ers matchup.

Any one of us (you guys, 49ers and us) would have beat the poo out of that soft ass Broncos team in the Super Bowl that year who hadn't faced a half decent defense all year until they ran into that Seattle buzz saw.  Easily the four best teams in the NFL were all in the NFC that year.

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1 hour ago, Iron Saint said:

So because he “went out on top”, does that make Elway’s legacy greater than say Montana’s who decided to keep playing until he couldn’t? I don’t think it does.

 

I think it elevated Elway's legacy  beyond where he would have been without the 2 Superbowls and going out on top. Did it hurt Montana's legacy? Not for people who saw him in the Super Bowls he won. But for people who only saw him in Kansas City, yeah it did. It was sad really. Kind of like Favre and most other players that hang on too long.

As a Saints fan you wouldn't see any logic but that he will plays until he is 45. But if he wins another Super bowl he will have nothing left to prove. He has lots of records, will have his best year ever and win it all. Storybook ending. He will have done it all. It would have been 8 years since his only other SB with no guarantee he evers wins again. No if he wins it, he is gone. Wait and see.

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3 hours ago, RelaxImaPro said:

Man that was a great division race.  Hell, I'd have just been happy with a wildcard at that point that year.  With the way the refs screwed us against the 49ers in the divisional playoffs we might have even been better off with a wildcard.  Could have kept momentum instead of dealing with a bye and I felt pretty confident about beating Seattle in a rematch... provided the refs didn't screw us like they did against the 49ers... which I'm sure they would have tried.  They reeeaaallly wanted that Seahawks/49ers matchup.

Any one of us (you guys, 49ers and us) would have beat the poo out of that soft ass Broncos team in the Super Bowl that year who hadn't faced a half decent defense all year until they ran into that Seattle buzz saw.  Easily the four best teams in the NFL were all in the NFC that year.

I completely agree with you, once they saw the 49ers advance against the Packers they started eying a Seahawks-49ers NFC Championship after all the hype from their split series the following two seasons where the 2 games in Seattle were blowouts and the other 2 in Candlestick were fought tooth and nail.

We were subject to a few questionable calls in our playoff rematch against the Seahawks as well including two unnecessary roughness penalties, a defensive holding and get this, an offensive pass interference. An offensive pass interference while playing against a defense that holds and interferes literally every play. It was comical. They were flagged a few times but most of them were late in the game (to make it look like it was officiated evenly) but not one defensive holding or defensive pass interference was called against their secondary.

I would’ve certainly enjoyed beating the piss out of the 49ers again that year in the playoffs though. We were still craving it after getting a taste of retribution earlier that year in the Superdome after having to wait a year and a half since the heartbreaking 2011 NFC Divisional game against them. But we also did want Seattle again after we took that drubbing up there in Week 13.

But we did get our franchise’s first road playoff victory in Philadelphia of all places so we got that monkey off our back that year at least.

3 hours ago, panthers55 said:

I think it elevated Elway's legacy  beyond where he would have been without the 2 Superbowls and going out on top. Did it hurt Montana's legacy? Not for people who saw him in the Super Bowls he won. But for people who only saw him in Kansas City, yeah it did. It was sad really. Kind of like Favre and most other players that hang on too long.

As a Saints fan you wouldn't see any logic but that he will plays until he is 45. But if he wins another Super bowl he will have nothing left to prove. He has lots of records, will have his best year ever and win it all. Storybook ending. He will have done it all. It would have been 8 years since his only other SB with no guarantee he evers wins again. No if he wins it, he is gone. Wait and see.

But Elway had no guarantee of winning a second one (consecutively nevertheless) when he came back in 1998. So to say Brees would feel content winning a second one and “going out on top” right now as it stands is trivial. If we do win a second one this year and he feels good enough (health wise and in regards to the team’s chances at repeating), he’s more than likely going to come back out and try to go back-to-back and get that 3rd one too. That’s just the competitor he is.

He’s said when he feels he isn’t able to perform at the level he expects of himself, that’s when he’s going to hang them up. Judging how he’s playing this year, much to the chagrin of the division, he can realistically probably go another 2-3 years. 

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1 hour ago, Shocker said:

We are going to have to beat the Saints.  Maybe twice.  No way around it.

If we can’t beat the Saints we don’t deserve the division.

If we lose to the Saints twice there is zero chance we can win the division. Even if we won all the rest of our games the Saints would have to lose four more times for us to win the division and that just isn't happening.

Beat them once and we can at least bring tiebreakers into play. I think we end up splitting but they win the division at 12-4 and we get a wild card at 10-6 or 11-5.

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