The Elephant in the room..... Dontari Poe

[Eazy-E]

This was his worst game of the season so thank god Short stepped up and created some pressure. I'm not worried. Besides today, he has been doing his job just fine.

[GoobyPls]

51 minutes ago, CarolinaNCSU said:

He and KK both have been average at best.  Out of what should be a Top 3 DT rotation, we're not looking too good. 

Star use to take the majority of the double teams, now KK is taking them and Poe isn’t taking advantage 

[Yaboychris28]

He still loves off tearing up the combine as a combine warrior way back when. He’s average 

[cbully]

I saw one play one on one he was brought down to his knees damn near at the point of the snap. He soft

[Cpt slay a ho]

We getting gashed up the middle 

[unicar15]

The problem isn’t Poe...it’s the fact that the ends get zero pressure from the perimeter. Peppers is our most consistent pass rusher and he’s approaching 40....and has lost more than a step. 

Addison is serviceable (which is what his contract reflects)....but we need some serious help off the edge next year. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, TheRumGone said:

Star was massively underrated here at what he was good at. He never became a pass rusher but goddamn he kept the linebackers clean. Poe has played ok, not great.

This. He wasn't a playmaker but he was a damn good space eater.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

The problem isn’t Poe...it’s the fact that the ends get zero pressure from the perimeter. Peppers is our most consistent pass rusher and he’s approaching 40....and has lost more than a step. 

Addison is serviceable (which is what his contract reflects)....but we need some serious help off the edge next year. 

Fortunately, this coming draft looks to be one of the stronger DL drafts in recent memory. We gotta draft some and we gotta nail those picks. Butler and Early being busts really hurt. Unlike our OL for the longest time, it wasn't that we didn't invest in the DL, it was just that we tried and we whiffed.

[Harbingers]

1 hour ago, Harbingers said:

I think he would have for the right price. KK and him were DG’s unstoppable team. They were our line. We didn’t have to worry about the line. Obviously hardy fuged that up. But they each had their own line and they could trade off quickly. That’s what made our DL unstoppable.

edit: we had the price. Till DG got shitcanned. 

And the moral was we had 2 DL leaders that could manage their squad. We don’t have that right now. We also don’t have our DL coach where he should be. 

[4Corners]

1 hour ago, Harbingers said:

Is not star. Gmagic would have kept star. 

You have Hurney to blame. Plain and simple.

I don’t know how their contracts match up, but at this point I think I would have rather held on to Star. 

[KillerKat]

Why are we suddenly overrating Star when we were still getting gashed up the middle when he was here?

[bigdog10]

Need to cut Vernon Butler and add literally any other DT. Vernon Butler is atrocious, is taking up a valuable roster spot, and has done absolutely nothing of note. 

[Wolfpredator]

2 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

Star was massively underrated here at what he was good at. He never became a pass rusher but goddamn he kept the linebackers clean. Poe has played ok, not great.

**Raises Hand**  I am one of the people who thought it would be okay to let Starr walk but never thought he wasn't a great player for us.  Did way more for us than I gave him credit for though and I think its no obvious.

[TheCasillas]

2 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

Star was massively underrated here at what he was good at. He never became a pass rusher but goddamn he kept the linebackers clean. Poe has played ok, not great.

I was having the discussion with my fiend yesterday. I would love to see side by side footage of Poe and Star with KK.  Just to compare what they do differently. To see if it is 100% Poe, or if KK is underperforming and creating less opportunity.