Reid calls Jenkins a “sellout”

[Mikey818]

16 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

I would tell my son to look up to Eric Reid

Why can’t he just play football? He can write a book about inequality in his spare time. Right now Tepper is paying him to play 

[Ricky Spanish]

For those who want more backstory, please read what someone had posted earlier:

https://theundefeated.com/features/irreconcilable-differences-why-the-nfl-players-coalition-split-apart/

My opinion on the matter:

Reid looks like the ass at the end of the day optics-wise. 

He let his personal beef get the best of him and he lost his cool. Then he went off talking crap about Jenkins after the game and Jenkins took the high road and said nothing bad and wished him well. Killed him with kindness. 

From what I understand, the coalition had a bunch of different guys in it who had a bunch of differing opinions on how to make the league listen. The vast majority wanted to move in one direction, and it seems like the league was willing to listen. But Reid refused to go in that direction because it didn't involve Kap even though Kap was excluding himself. I get it, he made a move on principal and you can respect it. But blowing up ANY progress because you are too stubborn to reach a compromise is not pragmatic. I see both sides, but the guy that is throwing shade comes across much worse than the guy wishing you well. 

It seems like with Reid that if you don't agree 100% with everything he says, then you are 100% against him. I could be wrong but that's the vibe I get. He's coming across stubborn and unwilling to see other perspectives on the matter and seems to be taking disagreement as a personal slight. I don't like it and it turns people off from his message. It seems he's trying to combat divisiveness with more divisiveness. I respect his right to protest and his opinion on the matter and I personally don't have a problem with it, but to me it seems like he can't see the forest through the tress on the matter.

But that's just, like, my opinion man. 

[Panther1iDawg]

16 hours ago, trucpfan said:

This is a personal rift between guys who are looking to make a impact in the world I'll let them handle it themselves.

Best view so far.

[TheRed]

11 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

It seems like with Reid that if you don't agree 100% with everything he says, then you are 100% against him. I could be wrong but that's the vibe I get. He's coming across stubborn and unwilling to see other perspectives on the matter and seems to be taking disagreement as a personal slight. I don't like it and it turns people off from his message. It seems he's trying to combat divisiveness with more divisiveness. I respect his right to protest and his opinion on the matter and I personally don't have a problem with it, but to me it seems like he can't see the forest through the tress on the matter.

But that's just, like, my opinion man. 

It's interesting to me that you take more of a beef with Reid on a personal level over semantics in his tone than the casual racism that his presence has exposed. Did you see that cartoon caricature of him on Twitter from a local eagles guy? You mentioned something about not seeing the forest through the trees? That rings quite true, but not for Reid, for you.

[coralreefer_1]

16 hours ago, TheRed said:

It's interesting to me that you take more of a beef with Reid on a personal level over semantics in his tone than the casual racism that his presence has exposed. Did you see that cartoon caricature of him on Twitter from a local eagles guy? You mentioned something about not seeing the forest through the trees? That rings quite true, but not for Reid, for you.

I personally take issue with Reid standing on his opening press conference and saying point blank that his off the field efforts were directly for those of "his people". I dont get how you can passively call someone else with semantics a closet racist while ignore the man at the podium that said in plain English his efforts..his off the field charities and efforts were for those only of black skin. You mention a cartoon. Did you not hear this mans words from his own mouth? Not a cartoon. Not an editorial. A full grown man in front of a national audience saying his charity/off the field endeavors are for those only of his own skin tone. 

[PntherPryd]

42 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

For those who want more backstory, please read what someone had posted earlier:

https://theundefeated.com/features/irreconcilable-differences-why-the-nfl-players-coalition-split-apart/

My opinion on the matter:

 

It seems like with Reid that if you don't agree 100% with everything he says, then you are 100% against him. I could be wrong but that's the vibe I get. He's coming across stubborn and unwilling to see other perspectives on the matter and seems to be taking disagreement as a personal slight. I don't like it and it turns people off from his message. It seems he's trying to combat divisiveness with more divisiveness. I respect his right to protest and his opinion on the matter and I personally don't have a problem with it, but to me it seems like he can't see the forest through the tress on the matter.

But that's just, like, my opinion man. 

I think that perfectly describes the huddle, the locker room and even society in general.  

How do you fix that?  

IMO the only way to fix it is for both sides to continue speaking their opinions until common ground can be reached.

[Ricky Spanish]

4 minutes ago, PntherPryd said:

I think that perfectly describes the huddle, the locker room and even society in general.  

How do you fix that?  

IMO the only way to fix it is for both sides to continue speaking their opinions until common ground can be reached.

Exactly, and from that article and some of his comments since signing with the team, Reid seems like he isn't about that life. It seems like he wanted himself or Kap to be the leader when they don't seem to have the ability to lead in the way the movement needed to actually get stuff done in a positive direction with the league. 

Whether he wants to admit it or not, Jenkins has turned the entire situation into a positive forward movement that has gotten the league's pocket books involved in a positive and progressive direction for change. 

[rodeo]

53 minutes ago, Mikey818 said:

Why can’t he just play football?

he can. but why would he? he achieves nothing from that except for pleasing you, which is not his life's goal.

he can do whatever he wants, and he is.

[rodeo]

know who i haven't heard much "shut up and get out of politics" about lately? kanye. weird!

[Proudiddy]

10 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

Exactly, and from that article and some of his comments since signing with the team, Reid seems like he isn't about that life. It seems like he wanted himself or Kap to be the leader when they don't seem to have the ability to lead in the way the movement needed. 

But i understand Reid's issue.  To me, it appears Jenkins took advantage of the movement they started and pulled a power move after co-opting it...  but, then after all of the crap the owners said and did towards the players, especially Kap and Reid, Jenkins basically sided with Goodell and the owners, leaving the movement Reid and Kap started completely forgotten in the process.  The coalition was supposed to help come up with a solution to the protests and also negotiate an initiative or plan to continue to give the players a voice while putting awareness of the issues they were protesting at the forefront all while finding ways to do so without offending others with protests (which is already aimed at satisfying conservative white viewers/fans).  They did neither and Jenkins refused to include Kap, who lost his job as a result of the protests.  He sold out and used the opportunity to advance himself, not the movement, and he basically acted as a double-agent, imo, buddying up with Goodell and quieting the protesting players.

[MechaZain]

17 hours ago, trucpfan said:

This is a personal rift between guys who are looking to make a impact in the world I'll let them handle it themselves.

Could have locked the thread after this. 

[Ricky Spanish]

1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

But i understand Reid's issue.  To me, it appears Jenkins took advantage of the movement they started and pulled a power move after co-opting it...  but, then after all of the crap the owners said and did towards the players, especially Kap and Reid, Jenkins basically united with the Goodell and the owners, leaving the movement Reid and Kap started completely forgotten in the process.  The coalition was supposed to help come up with a solution to the protests and also negotiate an initiative to continue to give the players a voice while putting awareness of the issues they were protesting at the forefront.  They did neither and Jenkins refused to include Kap, who lost his job as a result of the protests.  He sold out and used the opportunity to advance himself, not the movement, and he basically acted as a double-agent, imo, buddying up with Goodell and quieting the protesting players.

Oh I get Reid's perspective too, but I don't necessarily agree with it. I think that Jenkins saw an opportunity to move things in a different direction with change he viewed as positive and ran with it. He negotiated 89 million that they didn't have before to put towards community changes that would benefit those less fortunate than themselves. 

From what I've gathered, Reid and Kap were incredibly toxic/uncooperative towards the coalition, and tried to undermine the positive direction it was headed because they weren't leading it. This quote from the article stuck with me:

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“Leadership is not the function of Eric Reid and Colin Kaepernick,” Edwards said. “They have done something that no one else could do: They incited a movement, and they should take tremendous pride in that. But inciting a movement does not make you the leader of it. … One of the things people find when they insist on being leaders while the parade is going in another direction — after a period of time they’re just ignored. They’re not leading anything, they’re just out for a walk. At the end of the day, these issues are too critical and there’s too much at stake. … Look, I love Eric Reid and Kaep, but the reality is that the movement has grown so much bigger than the people who started it.”

Like it or not, the kneeling turned into something different, something bigger, and just because it was different didn't mean it was a bad thing. In fact, it was a very positive thing that was branching out and causing discussions about other things that needed to be changed and made better. This is just my opinion on the matter coming up, but to me Reid and Kap's ego took over and instead of embracing the positivity that was coming from it, they threw fit that they're protest rang true in different ways with different people. To me they are coming across as selfish in the whole matter because they aren't getting the credit and they aren't able to dictate what everyone else is going to do with their own voices, when guys like Jenkins and other supported them using their own. 

[TheRed]

@PntherPryd @Cracka McNasty

So both sides?

Incredibly easy/convenient call to make as a white guy.

[Millioso7]

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