Reid calls Jenkins a “sellout”

[Snake]

5 minutes ago, PntherPryd said:

It is not every thread that gets derailed.  Granted a few do but even in those I see where posters learn from other posters.

I looked up the post I gave you a warning over yesterday.  maybe you were being sarcastic but it was totally not called for and crossed the line... In My Opinion.  But dude, I didn't BAN you!  I gave you 10 hours off.  You probably needed the sleep anyway.

I'm not bitching. Just saying it just gets off football.  At least you respect me enough to discuss it with me. 

[Snake]

59 minutes ago, je1005 said:

I don’t agree with his message, and I’m not fan AT ALL of his unilateral choice to (less than a month here) turn a benign coin toss into a goddamn embarrassment, with that logo on his helmet. 

He’s whined like a bitch every day here, even in the midst of two sensational team wins that were made possible by a Hispanic coach, a black QB, a white MLB, a Scottish kicker named Gano, and a Jewish owner who—by the way—put his neck out to make you a player again.

Diversity? The Panthers do their part. But I’m sure somehow that not close to being good “enough”. Fight your fight, but stop being such a baby about it.

Or, do what Julius Peppers did: drive to the coast on your day off to rebuild ravaged homes—and pay for all this out of pocket. And do it with a smile, because, it actually inspires most. 

But, seriously, let’s go. It’s been a month now. Start making plays. Or, at least, stop doing this:

 

Nobody—not black, not white—-wants social commentary from a coverage and run support liability. 

Yup he's just not a very good safety it seems. I'm honestly surprised at his low level of play. I think we run with Sercey next year and hope he stays healthy. 

[The Huddler]

4 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

Cam did the same thing to KB before a game. I’ll always respect a man for not standing behind a keyboard and typing. 

not at the coin toss and then turning on team mates

[Pejorative Miscreant]

1 minute ago, The Huddler said:

ehhh.... he thought about doing it and did it.. 

 

again.. I'm a fan of what he's doing and even calling out Jenkins..  standing out there at coin toss to start a fight and then get heated with team mates is not good.  

No arguments from me here. Just think (or maybe it’s blind hope?) going forward this will not be a big issue.  

I didn’t know much of Reid before he came here but I truly believe he is a high character guy.  Agree with what he is doing or not, I think he deserves respect for his conviction.  Just my.02

[Snake]

19 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Here you go again assuming my stances and putting words in my mouth again. We agree on far more than you would think, but you just can't stand for it because we don't agree on literally everything and THAT is the problem with our country right now. Everything has to be black or white, right or left and we have no hope of improving as a nation as long as that remains the case. No two people will ever agree on everything.

I totally agree. 

[The Huddler]

Just now, Pejorative Miscreant said:

No arguments from me here. Just think (or maybe it’s blind hope?) going forward this will not be a big issue.  

I didn’t know much of Reid before he came here but I truly believe he is a high character guy.  Agree with what he is doing or not, I think he deserves respect for his conviction.  Just my.02

i respect him and stand behind his protests..

 

i just don't like what i saw today i though it was taken to far. I want my team focused. not holding back team mates who stand by themselves on the field during a coin toss to confront an opponent

[Snake]

2 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

not at the coin toss and then turning on team mates

I'm not really sure if their his teammates in his mind. He's fighting for a cause but that isn't winning a super bowl with the Panthers like everyone else is. 

[LinvilleGorge]

14 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

And again, it has to be black and white because your way doesn’t accomplish anything!! It has been tried, and the example you bring up, MLK, was murdered for attempting to do it your way. He was murdered in cold blood, and even before then he had regrets.  We ask you what it is that needs to be done, and you give some answer that’s not even feasible. I mean come on, you suggested paying your way to not being oppressed. How is that possible when the group that is oppressed is the poorest in this nation? So, we don’t agree on everything. You think Eric Reid’s way is wrong, so tell me, how should he or AA’s go about it?

You bring up your frustrations, and again I get it, but imagine how those who are going through and being oppressed are feeling. 

 

My family is from the southern Appalachians of western NC. We've been there since the mid-1700s. I have direct ancestors who fought in the Revolutionary War. I've diligently researched my family history and can find no evidence any of my direct ancestors ever owned slaves. That's not surprising. We were always dirt poor (as was most everyone in the sourthern Appalachians) and that region didn't support the plantation style agriculture that the slave trade was largely built upon. There's plenty of systematic oppression for poor, rural whites but it's not politically correct to point that out. There's plenty of socioeconomic oppression that has nothing to do with race. I have a problem when groups of people try to make everything about race. Want to fight against systematic oppression? Please do. Want to fight against police brutality and abuse of power? Please do. But when it becomes solely about race and only the wrongs done toward a specific race matter, that's a problem for me.

I was the first person in my family to ever go to college. The funny thing is that put me add odds with plenty of my family. Look at this guy who thinks he's better than all the rest of us. That's the interesting thing about the mores of society. People who step outside of their lane are often ostracized by "their people". Just like a lot of black people who go on to college and try to better themselves. Oh, you're better than us. Oh, you're not black enough. You're trying to be white. Hell, look at Dr. Ben Carson. You'd think the guy would be a role model for many kids having grown up in the ghetto and overcome that to go on to be a world renowned neurosurgeon. But, he falls on the wrong side of the political aisle of where he's "supposed to be", so nope.

[Snake]

2 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

i respect him and stand behind his protests..

 

i just don't like what i saw today i though it was taken to far. I want my team focused. not holding back team mates who stand by themselves on the field during a coin toss to confront an opponent

I said it when he was signed it was going to be a distraction. As long as we are winning it will be ok though. I honestly didn't expect it to boil over like it did today though. 

[AggieLean]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

My family is from the southern Appalachians of western NC. We've been there since the mid-1700s. I have direct ancestors who fought in the Revolutionary War. I've diligently researched my family history and can find no evidence any of my direct ancestors ever owned slaves. That's not surprising. We were always dirt poor (as was most everyone in the sourthern Appalachians) and that region didn't support the plantation style agriculture that the slave trade was largely built upon. There's plenty of systematic oppression for poor, rural whites but it's not politically correct to point that out. There's plenty of socioeconomic oppression that has nothing to do with race. I have a problem when groups of people try to make everything about race. Want to fight against systematic oppression? Please do. Want to fight against police brutality and abuse of power? Please do. But when it becomes solely about race and only the wrongs done toward a specific race matter, that's a problem for me.

I was the first person in my family to ever go to college. The funny thing is that put me add odds with plenty of my family. Look at this guy who thinks he's better than all the rest of us. That's the interesting thing about the mores of society. People who step outside of their lane are often ostracized by "their people". Just like a lot of black people who go on to college and try to better themselves. Oh, you're better than us. Oh, you're not black enough. You're trying to be white. Hell, look at Dr. Ben Carson. You'd think the guy would be a role model for many kids having grown up in the ghetto and overcome that to go on to be a world renowned neurosurgeon. But, he falls on the wrong side of the political aisle of where he's "supposed to be", so nope.

The average white high school drop out earns more than a black college grad. Why is that?

[Snake]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

My family is from the southern Appalachians of western NC. We've been there since the mid-1700s. I have direct ancestors who fought in the Revolutionary War. I've diligently researched my family history and can find no evidence any of my direct ancestors ever owned slaves. That's not surprising. We were always dirt poor (as was most everyone in the sourthern Appalachians and that region didn't support the plantation style agriculture that the slave trade was largely built upon. There's plenty of systematic oppression for poor, rural whites but it's not politically correct to point that out. There's plenty of socioeconomic oppression that has nothing to do with race. I have a problem when geouos of people try to make everything about race. Want to fight against systematic oppression? Please do. Want to fight against police brutality and abuse of power? Please do. But when it becomes about race and only the wrongs done toward a specific race matter, that's a problem for me.

I was the first person in my family to ever go to college. The funny thing is that put me add odds with plenty of my family. Look at this guy who thinks he's better than all the rest of us. That's the interesting thing about the mores of society. People who step outside of their lane are often ostracized by "their people". Just like a lot of black people who go on to college and try to better themselves. Oh, you're better than us. Oh, you're not black enough. You're trying to be white. Hell, look at Dr. Ben Carson. You'd think the guy would be a role model for many kids having grown up in the ghetto and overcome that to go on to be a world renowned neurosurgeon. But, he falls on the wrong side of the political aisle of where he's "supposed to be", so nope.

And now you get to snowboard pow in Colorado you bastard. Now what's white privilege

[Snake]

2 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

The average white high school drop out earns more than a black college grad. Why is that?

Got some stats for that? I honestly would like to learn if this is really true. 

[AggieLean]

2 minutes ago, Snake said:

Got some stats for that? I honestly would like to learn if this is really true. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/rollingout.com/2017/08/13/average-white-high-school-dropout-earns-more-than-black-college-grad/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2014/06/27/white-high-school-drop-outs-are-as-likely-to-land-jobs-as-black-college-students/amp/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/03/10/white-high-school-dropouts-are-wealthier-than-black-and-hispanic-college-graduates-can-a-new-policy-tool-fix-that/?utm_term=.9c3ac1825d6c

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

The average white high school drop out earns more than a black college grad. Why is that?

There's nowhere near enough parameters involved to draw a conclusion unless you've already arrived at that conclusion and are simply looking for confirmation. 

Some of the things I'm talking about is that the black population tends to be very concentrated in the south and in urban areas. Wages tend to be lower in the south. Opportunities in inner cities are lacking, period. I'm not saying that there's no systematic issues contributing to that particular metric (I think it's highly likely that it does play a role, but it's likely far from the sole contributor). I'm simply saying that you have to look at the big picture and try to account for all variables rather than attribute it solely to the one variables that you favor.