For the Fire Rivera Group

[Cary Kollins]

This thread is utter dildos.

[raz]

1 minute ago, Cary Kollins said:

This thread is utter dildos.

yeah well you called moose the n word

[JakeDel5674]

54 minutes ago, Toomers said:

When you see the name of the poster and already know exactly what’s coming....

Sorry man.... but you came through 

Thanks bruh. But, as an OU fan I shouldn't want him to leave, correct? He is the best Offensive mind in football right now (maybe besides McVay). I want him with Cam bad (pause). 

[Toomers]

14 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

We've reached the peak of Rivera. I don't have a name, but it's time to bring in someone more offensively minded and adapt to the new nfl

  It’s easy to go “All-In” when watching poker on TV. Totally different when it’s your skin in the game. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

20 minutes ago, raz said:

dangit dave the panther, you really think we are playing up to our talent.   i think i remember you from tbr from a long time ago, so i think you were here for fox.   this guy is fox 2.0.   fox took us to a sb too.   i just personally feel like rivera is played out.    he's not smart enough to adapt, he don't want no numbers or fancy percentages floating around in his head.   he knows 1 way and 1 way only.  its not gonna work.  i really just don't have hope that we can win a sb with him.    shoot, i still have bad feelings about the kasay kick. and nobody even cares rivera told the offense to stop practicing new plays and new looks for the superbowl because what we did worked.     we're not going to the top of the mtn with this chucklehead so what's the dang point?

I liked Fox and agree it was time to let him go.  

I am not saying it isn't time to let Rivera go either.   But IMO there are very few choices out there that will improve us as a team.   The topic is Who are you going to replace him with.  So many want to avoid the question and continue on the fire Rivera narrative but won't say who you got.  There are some out there but are you willing to regress to make point that Rivera needs to go.  

If you are going to replace him, who are you going to replace him with?  Come on, if you are the legend that you think you are you should have a viable name you can drop on us.

 

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, JakeDel5674 said:

Thanks bruh. But, as an OU fan I shouldn't want him to leave, correct? He is the best Offensive mind in football right now (maybe besides McVay). I want him with Cam bad (pause). 

 Nothing against Lincoln at all. I’d kill for him at Auburn. And honestly, if I were to go the college route, he was my first thought. 

 Just I know you were an OU fan and knew what was coming. Got a laugh. It was partly because I had him in mind too

[billionairemonk]

22 minutes ago, Toomers said:

And I’m surely not going to say we couldn’t do better. But odds are against it.

exactly.  best case scenario, in my opinion, is Tepper makes him understand that, although consistency is a good quality to have, you have to constantly adapt in order to keep improving.  how he does that, i don't know.  perhaps, the threat of being fired every season?  haha, it worked before.

[raz]

legend? what?   i don't need names.  that's not my job bro and it doesn't mean anything.   im on a message board saying he's not taking us there.   i think you know that's true.    if this is good enough for you, ok.   we should be focused on building a dynasty.   that ain't happening with this crew.

[DaveThePanther2008]

1 minute ago, billionairemonk said:

exactly.  best case scenario, in my opinion, is Tepper makes him understand that, although consistency is a good quality to have, you have to constantly adapt in order to keep improving.  how he does that, i don't know.  perhaps, the threat of being fired every season?  haha, it worked before.

I would like to see Tepper have a one on one with Rivera and tell him to be more aggressive.  I have heard that going for the 63 yd fg was not Rivera's idea.  Ron had that mentality in 2015 and needs to find it again. The 4th and inches decision against Washington was ball-less.  It says in one quick action that he doesn't trust the offense to get 1 yd nor the defense that they can keep Washington out of the end zone if we give them a short field. 

As fans we have the ability to be arm chair GMs and pick and choose coaches we want.   I don't follow college football enough to offer a name.   Many of you follow other teams and college teams to offer a suitable name.   

I think a perfect name is Chip Kelly.  Everyone was certain he would change the game and all he did was bomb out.   As fans we have the luxury to say fire this coach or that coach because no matter what happens we only have opinions.   Owners have to decide where they want their team to go.  Tepper ultimately has to decide if there is someone who is going to move this team ahead or drop us into Jaguar territory.  

[DaveThePanther2008]

9 minutes ago, raz said:

legend? what?   i don't need names.  that's not my job bro and it doesn't mean anything.   im on a message board saying he's not taking us there.   i think you know that's true.    if this is good enough for you, ok.   we should be focused on building a dynasty.   that ain't happening with this crew.

You miss the whole topic though.  If I wanted to rant and rave about firing Rivera I could have done it in the other 1000 threads on firing Rivera.  So could have you, which I am certain you already have.  

I like you, want a dynasty.  Consistency and all those other things.  The subject of this topic was who are you going to bring in to make your dream come true.  You don't have a name but to criticize me for trying to get some ideas on who we should bring in is as lame as the thousands of worthless threads about firing Rivera.  

[billionairemonk]

3 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

It says in one quick action that he doesn't trust the offense to get 1 yd nor the defense that they can keep Washington out of the end zone if we give them a short field. 

yes,  the players reflect the qualities of the head coach.  once the decision to punt was made, momentum was lost and the turnovers compounded it.  on the road, being aggressive is a necessity to mitigate the effect of the crowd.

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, billionairemonk said:

yes,  the players reflect the qualities of the head coach.  once the decision to punt was made, momentum was lost and the turnovers compounded it.  on the road, being aggressive is a necessity to mitigate the effect of the crowd.

I was just as pissed at the ignorant play call right before it. You don’t pitch the ball and have your RB running sideways on 3rd and short, in the NFL. Unless you have an overwhelming schematic advantage. Should have never been a 4th down. We better run a play action off that so it wasn’t a complete waste. 

[Mr. Scot]

I'm not in the "Fire Rivera" group. I'm in what I guess you could call the "Question Rivera" group, meaning that I'm not outright advocating his firing but I think it's legitimate to question whether he can win a championship at this point. His performance the last time we reached the Super Bowl certainly wasn't encouraging in that regard.

I don't advocate moving on from a Head Coach too easily. It's a huge and difficult decision. That said, the notion that you can't fire one because "there's nothing better out there" is plain ridiculous. Every good head coach in the league right now was an unknown at some point, and every single season there are good new candidates available.

Is it a risk? Of course it's a risk. So is hanging on to a head coach who hasn't put it all together yet. This same logic that's being used now could have been used to hang on to John Fox over a guy who at the time was just someone who'd interviewed with nine different teams and been repeatedly turned down.

Based on what I'm hearing, those same folks now saying Rivera shouldn't be fired would have pointed to his first two seasons as evidence that firing John Fox was a mistake.

You might wanna think about that for a second.

As to candidates...

Dan Campbell: Assistant Head Coach / TE Coach, Saints

Campbell is a Bill Parcells protege who's received lots of positive buzz for his football knowledge and his coaching ability. One coach stated that it's not a matter of if Campbell becomes a head coach in the NFL, but when (he's been interviewed already). technically, he's already been one since he was the interim head coach for the Dolphins after they fired Joe Philbin.

John DeFilippo: Offensive Coordinator, Vikings

Another name that's already received head coaching interviews, DeFilippo has loads of head coaching buzz. He's gotten lots of credit for helping develop Carson Wentz as well as helping Nick Foles be at his best for last year's Super Bowl. If you want an offensive head coach, this is arguably the top name right now.

James Bettcher: Defensive Coordinator, Giants

For those who prefer defensive coaches (not that I expect there are many of those) Bettcher is one of the hot names out there. He's considered to be a coach on the rise and is said to have a brilliant football mind. Like the first two, he's already received head coaching attention. Me? I'm not as high on this idea as I'd like to see us try an offensive coach for the first time, but he'd be an option.

Dave Toub: Assistant Head Coach / Special Teams Coach, Chiefs

Not sure if you want an offensive coach or a defensive coach? How about a Special Teams coach? Worked out pretty well for the Ravens when they hired John Harbaugh. Toub has been considered by many to be the best special teams coach in the league for quite a while and has recently gotten some head coaching consideration as well. And hey, why not a guy who can see the picture from a slightly different perspective than others?

Jim Schwartz: Defensive Coordinator, Eagles

Jerry Richardson was never a big fan of retreads, and became even less of one after the disaster of George Seifert. David Tepper might not feel the same way, and Schwartz has been talked about as someone who will probably return to the Head Coach role somewhere down the road. Again, this is not one of my favorite ideas as I prefer we go offense, but he's another viable option.

........

Now mind you, there's a lot of season left so before the year is over other names could emerge as hot candidates. Likewise, these names could wax or wane depending on their performance. Such things are obviously impossible to predict.

What can be said, though: There will be good, viable candidates. To deny that is just silly.

As mentioned before, every successful head coach in the league right now was once an unknown. Believing that you can't take a chance on an unknown would have prevented you from hiring guys like Doug Pederson, Mike Tomlin, Sean Payton, Sean McVay or even...yes, Bill Belichick.

[thefuzz]

Sloop John D.