4 Simple question for Jake defenders.

[panthers55]

Because those guys dont sell bo berry biscuits and dirty rice like Jake Delhomme. They also didnt come in at halftime of our game against Jacksonville in 03 and lead us to that magical comeback making us fall in love with #17 forever. Jake is the star of this show, if we have to hand the ball off 60 times and throw 2 passes, we'll do it. Anything to keep him out on the field. I said it in the offseason, the Panthers will be begging Jake Delhomme to play at age 40.

That is just plain stupid. Jake didn't get the Bojangles commercials and then play football it was the other way around. And if he were replaced, they would stop airing those commercials and start airing whoever was winning for them now. How many Jake Bojangles commercials do you think you will see if we go on an 8 game losing streak? None!!! Marketing folks track the success of individual ads and pull them if they don't work. They aren't into politics, they are into cash.

Players get endorsements because of their activity on the field. If that changes or they get in trouble the endorsements go away. Business is all about the money. Jake is doing commercials as long as people like them and associate success with him and buy biscuits. When that goes away, so do the contracts.

Your conspiracy theories show you don't have a clue how advertising works.

[Cyberjag]

David Carr and Vinny Testaverde beat Matt Moore out in practice 2 years ago too. Remember how that turned out?

Well, Carr beat him and held the job until he was knocked out with a back injury. Rather than go with Moore we signed Testaverde, until he was injured. Then we went with Moore, who looked good enough that no move was made in the offseason. Then we went into the next year and Moore turned out to be so bad that we signed McCown to play number two. And he hasn't gotten any better.

Yeah, I remember...

[Nicbsbll2]

Do you think that if he was replaced, the rest of the team would suddenly lift their play to all-pro levels? Would special teams suddenly become special? Would Williams gain consistency? Would Smith and Moose get open? Would Godfrey start covering better? Would the line suddenly start protecting better?

2 years ago when Moore finally got to start the team as a whole seemed to lift their play. Actually having a QB that the team believes will give them a chance to win, instead of giving them a chance to lose, will do wonders for how hard the team plays.

[Khyber53]

When a team goes on the skids, the first thing that usually gets said is "Fire the Quarterback." Why? Because it takes the least thought and energy.

QB throwing a lot of interceptions? It's all his fault, gotta be. Team not winning? QB is screwing it up.

Next, a few people will move a few neurons around and put a wee bit more thought to it and come up with "Fire the Coach!" Everything runs through the coach, right, so let's fire him and that jerk of a quarterback, too, while we're at it.

But man, anyone who has ever played anything more than fantasy football or Madden knows is that problems like Carolina had at the beginning of the season are much more complex than can be laid on a single person's shoulders. No matter how much some idiot wants to do that.

Look at our discourse around here lately. Even with the last two wins, there has been someone to scapegoat after each game. Jake's a constant, Fox and Hurney, too. Pep's been a big one this year, Godfrey is a popular one right now, Smitty as well. Heck, I remember threads about how we should trade Johnathan Stewart not too long ago.

Really, what gives? Should we just line everyone up and cut a pink slip to every third player in line? What about pack in the season now after two wins, hire a U-Haul truck for the coach and start tuning in to watch Falcons games instead?

Give me a break. You want to know what? It's something that I believe makes some people on this board physically sick -- we've won games now, with all of the same players in place. And guess what? The team is actually getting better, believe it or not. The problems are being worked out and Fox might pull a rabbit outta his hat before the season's over.

Hell, I'm going to keep watching, and I sure hope he does. Why? Because this is my favorite team and I always want them to win. But I'm also an adult and have realized that sometimes your team loses one. I'm big enough to go on about my life and wait for the next week.

Any thoughts of "Man, that guy's game sucked this week," or "We looked a little weak in the secondary" are just watercooler conversation material. But man, some of you folks want to see blood, you act like the failures of a player on a sports team were a personal let down to you and you deserve revenge.

Get a grip. Pull for your team, man up and take the lumps in loss and enjoy the wins. But let it go, and don't salivate over your next chance to be a star and start your very own "Fire Jake" "Fire Fox" or "Fire Everyone" threads (supplies limited, call now to get your very own!).

[monstercat]

Bojangles? LOL, are you serious? Richardson could buy Bojangles with petty cash.

I like Jake and what he's done, but he's playing awful this year. Unless he improves a ton, this will probably be his last year.

Hell, even if he does improve, I doubt many fans will aknowledge it. It's the same with Fox. I just get the feeling that most Panthers fans would rather see us lose just so they can get rid of them. I just hope that if it does happen that way, we come out ahead like the Broncos and not behind like the Bucs, because there are no guarantees in this business.

[Jase]

Show of hands, how many people have seen jake in a bojangles commercial this year.

[panthers55]

Bojangles? LOL, are you serious? Richardson could buy Bojangles with petty cash.

I like Jake and what he's done, but he's playing awful this year. Unless he improves a ton, this will probably be his last year.

Actually Richardson's group owns Bojangles hence the conspiracy theories. And you are right, folks don't buy biscuits endorsed by over the hill quarterbacks or receivers. If he doesn't improve his biscuit and playing days are over. He may not get canned next year but he may be the back-up.

[Cyberjag]

When a team goes on the skids, the first thing that usually gets said is "Fire the Quarterback." Why? Because it takes the least thought and energy.

QB throwing a lot of interceptions? It's all his fault, gotta be. Team not winning? QB is screwing it up.

Next, a few people will move a few neurons around and put a wee bit more thought to it and come up with "Fire the Coach!" Everything runs through the coach, right, so let's fire him and that jerk of a quarterback, too, while we're at it.

But man, anyone who has ever played anything more than fantasy football or Madden knows is that problems like Carolina had at the beginning of the season are much more complex than can be laid on a single person's shoulders. No matter how much some idiot wants to do that.

Look at our discourse around here lately. Even with the last two wins, there has been someone to scapegoat after each game. Jake's a constant, Fox and Hurney, too. Pep's been a big one this year, Godfrey is a popular one right now, Smitty as well. Heck, I remember threads about how we should trade Johnathan Stewart not too long ago.

Really, what gives? Should we just line everyone up and cut a pink slip to every third player in line? What about pack in the season now after two wins, hire a U-Haul truck for the coach and start tuning in to watch Falcons games instead?

Give me a break. You want to know what? It's something that I believe makes some people on this board physically sick -- we've won games now, with all of the same players in place. And guess what? The team is actually getting better, believe it or not. The problems are being worked out and Fox might pull a rabbit outta his hat before the season's over.

Hell, I'm going to keep watching, and I sure hope he does. Why? Because this is my favorite team and I always want them to win. But I'm also an adult and have realized that sometimes your team loses one. I'm big enough to go on about my life and wait for the next week.

Any thoughts of "Man, that guy's game sucked this week," or "We looked a little weak in the secondary" are just watercooler conversation material. But man, some of you folks want to see blood, you act like the failures of a player on a sports team were a personal let down to you and you deserve revenge.

Get a grip. Pull for your team, man up and take the lumps in loss and enjoy the wins. But let it go, and don't salivate over your next chance to be a star and start your very own "Fire Jake" "Fire Fox" or "Fire Everyone" threads (supplies limited, call now to get your very own!).

Post more please.

[panthers55]

David Carr and Vinny Testaverde beat Matt Moore out in practice 2 years ago too. Remember how that turned out?

THey both got hurted and we brought in Moore when we had no one else to turn to. Your point???

[Murph]

when a team goes on the skids, the first thing that usually gets said is "fire the quarterback." why? Because it takes the least thought and energy.

Qb throwing a lot of interceptions? It's all his fault, gotta be. Team not winning? Qb is screwing it up.

Next, a few people will move a few neurons around and put a wee bit more thought to it and come up with "fire the coach!" everything runs through the coach, right, so let's fire him and that jerk of a quarterback, too, while we're at it.

But man, anyone who has ever played anything more than fantasy football or madden knows is that problems like carolina had at the beginning of the season are much more complex than can be laid on a single person's shoulders. No matter how much some idiot wants to do that.

Look at our discourse around here lately. Even with the last two wins, there has been someone to scapegoat after each game. Jake's a constant, fox and hurney, too. Pep's been a big one this year, godfrey is a popular one right now, smitty as well. Heck, i remember threads about how we should trade johnathan stewart not too long ago.

Really, what gives? Should we just line everyone up and cut a pink slip to every third player in line? What about pack in the season now after two wins, hire a u-haul truck for the coach and start tuning in to watch falcons games instead?

Give me a break. You want to know what? It's something that i believe makes some people on this board physically sick -- we've won games now, with all of the same players in place. And guess what? The team is actually getting better, believe it or not. The problems are being worked out and fox might pull a rabbit outta his hat before the season's over.

Hell, i'm going to keep watching, and i sure hope he does. Why? Because this is my favorite team and i always want them to win. But i'm also an adult and have realized that sometimes your team loses one. I'm big enough to go on about my life and wait for the next week.

Any thoughts of "man, that guy's game sucked this week," or "we looked a little weak in the secondary" are just watercooler conversation material. But man, some of you folks want to see blood, you act like the failures of a player on a sports team were a personal let down to you and you deserve revenge.

Get a grip. Pull for your team, man up and take the lumps in loss and enjoy the wins. But let it go, and don't salivate over your next chance to be a star and start your very own "fire jake" "fire fox" or "fire everyone" threads (supplies limited, call now to get your very own!).

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[Nicbsbll2]

THey both got hurted and we brought in Moore when we had no one else to turn to. Your point???

When actually given the chance to play with the best talent, not just scrubs, he far outplayed both of them.

But I guess when you're last on field success was 2+ years ago only means something when you're trying to defend Delhomme...

[Jase]

Show of hands, how many people have seen jake in a bojangles commercial this year.

Answer, none of you, because Jake is no longer a spokesperson for them.

[Guest DrewBreesIsGod]

if you guys think this season is a 'clear waste', you are about to get to .500! If you were the Titan, I could see it, but hang in there!

[monstercat]

Post more please.

Yes. I just repped him. He's absolutely right...too many fans want somebody to pay for their mistakes more than they even want their team to win.