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Why has Cam been the worst QB in football on deep passes this year?


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19 minutes ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

Going 1 for 13 is too small of a sample size for you?

That's less than 3 attempts per game. Yes, that's too small. That's about 7.5% of our total passes. I'd be curious to know how many of those were in pretty much desperation situations when the D was playing to prevent the deep ball.

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10 minutes ago, Professor Chaos said:

I quit being a Cam supporter after the super bowl. I could tell that we were going to lose that game in the 2nd quarter because he was already pouting. 

I have never seen anyone so void of a personal identity that edgelording becomes such a desperate gambit to be known for something 

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35 minutes ago, NAS said:

This can't be true, the TD to Funchess against the Redskins was more than 20 yards in the Air.  

That was actually a pretty poor pass too. Funchess has two or three steps on the DB and was forced to come back and Moss the guy because the ball was 3 yards under thrown.

A similar play happened in a near identical position on the field when Samuel had his guy beat on a go route and Cam back shouldered the throw and brought the DB back into play.

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we've barely thrown it past the 15 yard line...
 

I'm counting Cam at 16/37 in passes of 15 yards or longer, with 2 picks and 2 TDs.

For your consideration, I am also clocking him as 67/83 in PASSES LESS THAN 5 YARDS, INCLUDING BEHIND THE LOS, lol. We're also at 6 TDs and one pick in that range.

Basically, we pass less than 5 yards almost two and a quarter times more than we throw it more than 15.

I get that we've built a stable of YAC guys. But we don't play those guys enough to justify these numbers.

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40 minutes ago, Professor Chaos said:

the excuses will flow like menstruation in this thread. 

 

But the truth is he has no more excuses. He has one of the greatest OC's in league history. He has several speedy WR's that can get open deep. He has a solid offensive line that hasn't let him get hit hardly at all. 

LMAO 

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He's not making all the right reads. He doesn't want to turn the ball over. Smith hasn't helped in the least as the deep threat can't get separation. plus, olsen has been out. But still, there's something going on with that shoulder and even last year and in the preseason, the deep passes weren't accurate. He's just heaving it up there. I'm watching Rodgers just heave it up last night and at least they fall into place. Cam really hasn't ever had touch on the ball but something is hiding and if we tank this season, you can bet that'll be an excuse going into next year. Luck is not the same either.

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6 minutes ago, RumHam said:

He's not making all the right reads. He doesn't want to turn the ball over. Smith hasn't helped in the least as the deep threat can't get separation. plus, olsen has been out. But still, there's something going on with that shoulder and even last year and in the preseason, the deep passes weren't accurate. He's just heaving it up there. I'm watching Rodgers just heave it up last night and at least they fall into place. Cam really hasn't ever had touch on the ball but something is hiding and if we tank this season, you can bet that'll be an excuse going into next year. Luck is not the same either.

Cam is not good any more on longer passes I don’t know why but it certainly limits us 

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By my previous numbers, it would mean that Cam is 39/50 in passes from 6-14 yards.

That means his completion percentage in each range:

Behind LOS-5 yards - 80%
6-14 yards - 78%
15+ yards - 43%

I think this is because of a few things:

1. We run too many out routes.
2. We rarely pass in between the hash marks.
3. Our WRs that are getting PT can't run open routes.
4. We stopped using CMC as a receiver out of the backfield, which would help out or WRs.
5. Cam still has the occasional overthrow.


When 51% of your passes are for 5 yards are less, it is kinda hard to stretch the field and take the pressure off your run game, too. Teams are just going to stack our box every game until we start stretching the field more.

I suspect they're all already keying on CMC so much because we're using him way too much and they know our game is the short game. TBQH This is 100% on Ron and Norv.

 

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Cam missed CMAC plain and simple. That said, we aren't taking any deep shots this year and my guess is Norv. Cam is much improved in the short to intermediate routes, which is where we needed him to improve. It is funny how one drive changes the perception on a player. Cam played great for much of that game. The INT was a 3rd and long and a punt if not picked (at least I believe without stat checking). 

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16 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Having a patchwork O-Line that can't get Cam enough time to even throw medium passes doesn't help.

What? The oline has been average for the first few games and is trending upwards very quickly as of now, week 6. They’re doing surprisingly very well. I’m interested in what you’re looking at to say this?

Recievers are getting open, although they’re also making boneheaded moves (tipping it for INT, fumbles etc.)

Number 1 rushing yards in the league.

I honestly can’r really say why Cam has having accuracy issues with the longer passes, but it should be obvious for anyone who has watched him for his career there is certainly a decline. I never thought the injury affected him too much but maybe I was wrong.

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