What do we do with Williams/Moton?

[heelsnum1]

Needs to be a fair deal, but nothing wrong with a little depth, especially when Moton can play multiple positions.  We've proven that the OL situation changes every year, depth and flexibility are key.

[Ricky Spanish]

I think we can lock Williams up long term. Peppers, R. Kalil, and possibly TD and Mike Adams are all retiring at the end of the year. That will free up a ton of Cap space we can use on locking Williams up. Slide Moton to LT, designate M kalil as a June 1st cut and spread that travesty of a cap hit across two years, Let Funchess and Smith walk rolling with Samuel, Moore, Wright, and rookie 3rd round tall WR. Sign Cameron Brate to a reasonable contract if Greg retires, sign/draft DE early, Re-sign Eric Reid to a longer term deal if he isn't hot garbage (won't be much Safeties don't make much these days), Slide Gaulden into Vacant Safety slot (or draft someone better because I have no faith in him).

Baby, you've got a stew going. 

[luke nukem]

19 minutes ago, Camp Fodder said:

I’m worried what we will do with Kalil after week 8?

same, I dont want to waste an IR to return on him tbh. would rather bring back sercy and save the other one incase someone else gets hurt in these next couple weeks.

[bababoey]

Re sign Williams, then cage fight to the death for RT job. 

[tondi]

If we pay Williams big money we have to go ahead and plan to lose Moton since I doubt we pay both tackles 15 million each a season. It'll be like us signing Turner meaning we couldn't keep Norwell all over again. 

[pantherclaw]

4 minutes ago, tondi said:

If we pay Williams big money we have to go ahead and plan to lose Moton since I doubt we pay both tackles 15 million each a season. It'll be like us signing Turner meaning we couldn't keep Norwell all over again. 

We got Moton cheap for another 2 seasons after this one. 

[Ricky Spanish]

6 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

We got Moton cheap for another 2 seasons after this one. 

And if they're both good we can manipulate the cap hits so they don't hurt the team at the same time. 

I'd rather invest money in the lines than anywhere else (other than QB)

[OneBadCat]

Moton has been the best LT we've had in years. I think you have to play him there and let Williams play RT where is has been a dominant player. 

[PanthersBigD]

49 minutes ago, Camp Fodder said:

I’m worried what we will do with Kalil after week 8?

Glue factory...

[sharkkiller]

55 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

This staff will find some way to fug this up too. 

Holy crap, can we not have one discussion without all this negative bullshit coming in? It is getting ridiculous.

[MillionDollarCam]

A few other things to consider.

Peoppers $5M and Kalil’s 10M cap hit are the only big hits coming off the books next year. If Olsen retires I believe we are still on the hook for his $7.5M dead cap hit (someone will have to check me on that).

You also have to figure out how to replace roster players like Peppers, Kalil, Davis, Adams, Horton, Reid, Funchess, etc. while also remembering that Bradberry, Thompson, and Addison are free agents the following year.

This team looks like it is going to get a lot younger, and fast.

[tondi]

33 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

We got Moton cheap for another 2 seasons after this one. 

Yes we do but thinking longer term it'll be hard to keep both if they each want top dollar.  I agree we should try though. 

[mc52beast]

1 hour ago, Camp Fodder said:

I’m worried what we will do with Kalil after week 8?

I’ve got some grass that needs to be cut

[AU-panther]

1 hour ago, tondi said:

If we pay Williams big money we have to go ahead and plan to lose Moton since I doubt we pay both tackles 15 million each a season. It'll be like us signing Turner meaning we couldn't keep Norwell all over again. 

Moton's first year on a new contract (2021) would be Turner's last year of his current contract.  Often the first year of a new contract is pretty low.  Also they could release Turner that year and free up a lot of cap space.

If we go cheap at Guard, Center, Guard we can afford two expensive tackles.  Depending on how expensive, they might decide to pay one more lineman substantial money.

At a certain point though there is just so much cap space you want to contribute to position group.