Am I watching the same team as y’all?(message to the haters)

[bigdavis]

4 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Terrible no, mediocre yes. Kubiack is as mediocre as they come. Mike McCarthy another mediocre coach carried by a great QB. 

 

Like I said coaching football isn’t rocket science

Well, if you're convinced enough to say it twice, it must be true.

[Doc Holiday]

1 hour ago, GoobyPls said:

I’m sure it’s harder LOL, that’s why guys with zero experience get coaching jobs. 

 

John Fox went 46-18 with the Broncos, now nobody wants him. Jim Caldwell, Jeff Fisher all have good records nobody wants them. Rivera without Cam would be in their same predicament 

You would find a lot of NFL headcoaches looking for jobs if not for having a good QB, Bill Belichick included. lol

[Rick101]

Thanks for posting Doc! How is it that each season everyone forget we pray for wins during September and October especially when the team are dealing with the injury bug. Every Panther fan should know that November ball is when this team get rid of all the kinks and began to play lights out football. We are in good shape so far. RELAX!

[GoobyPls]

2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Actually Fox  did get a job after Denver. Then in Chicago he went 14-34 which is why nobody wants him now. Which proves my point. If coaching we're so easy Fox would have been as successful in Chicago as in Denver but he wasn't. Because as I told you many of the variables vary from team to team and from year to year so it is hard to be a successful coach every where you go. 

Fisher was 173-165 as a head coach which is barely above 500. And his last 5 years coaching at STL/ LA Rams he was 31-45 with 0 winning seasons. He went 4-9 in 2016 with the same Rams team Sean McVay went 11-5 the next year. The NFL stands for not for long. No matter how good you were at one place, if you move on and do worse at the next you get canned and now raise the concern that you only won because of a quarterback not on your own merits. Even Belichick suffers those questions about his success being the result of Tom Brady. Of course he has showed his system works with other QBs at least in the short term.

The biggest variable is personnel and a franchise quarterback. If you have good players you have a shot to have a winning season. If not, you better hope your new owner is patient.

I didn’t say he didn’t get a job after Denver, I said nobody wants him now. You do know Rivera is barely over .500 also so your Fisher point makes no sense.

My point still stands, all those guys I mentioned are mediocre coaches, all won games and now all of them are unwanted. Main reason being is that they are relics of coaching styles like Rivera, and even when they were winning records teams felt like they were winning in spite of them.

[Mother Grabber]

6 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Coaching football isn’t rocket science. And teams win in spite of coaching all the time

this is one of the most ridiculous things ever posted on this forum, and given the competition on here for such a statement is truly saying something. You don't do anything at the professional level without being exceptionally skilled at it.  He's not coaching against high school coaches, he's coaching against the best coaches in the world.  For him to be 17 games over .500 for his career is not an accident. This is Alice-level naivety.

[GoobyPls]

1 hour ago, Doc Holiday said:

You would find a lot of NFL headcoaches looking for jobs if not for having a good QB, Bill Belichick included. lol

Doubt it, Belichick has a winning record in NE without Brady.

[Mother Grabber]

2 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

I didn’t say he didn’t get a job after Denver, I said nobody wants him now. You do know Rivera is barely over .500 also so your Fisher point makes no sense.

My point still stands, all those guys I mentioned are mediocre coaches, all won games and now all of them are unwanted. Main reason being is that they are relics of coaching styles like Rivera, and even when they were winning records teams felt like they were winning in spite of them.

he's more than an entire season over .500...that's a lot better than barely.

[GoobyPls]

1 minute ago, Mother Grabber said:

this is one of the most ridiculous things ever posted on this forum, and given the competition on here for such a statement is truly saying something. You don't do anything at the professional level without being exceptionally skilled at it.  He's not coaching against high school coaches, he's coaching against the best coaches in the world.  For him to be 17 games over .500 for his career is not an accident. This is Alice-level naivety.

Theirs a lot behind the scenes things when it comes to hiring coaches you don’t even know. Some coaches get jobs based on interview skills, some get jobs on connections alone. Coaching in the nfl is a boys club

 

Look at Shula whose been fired from every job he’s had, keep getting hired, why? Great connections from Daddy. What about Norv, got fired from his previous 3 coaching jobs, doesn’t matter he’s connected with Rivera. And Norv went on to hire his sons who have little coaching experince.

But leave it to the guys on the huddle to tell you it’s harder than rocket science 

 

 

LMAO

[Mother Grabber]

1 minute ago, GoobyPls said:

Theirs a lot behind the scenes things when it comes to hiring coaches you don’t even know. Some coaches get jobs based on interview skills, some get jobs on connections alone. Coaching in the nfl is a boys club

 

Look at Shula whose been fired from every job he’s had, keep getting hired, why? Great connections from Daddy. What about Norv, got fired from his previous 3 coaching jobs, doesn’t matter he’s connected with Rivera. And Norv went on to hire his sons who have little coaching experince.

But leave it to the guys on the huddle to tell you it’s harder than rocket science 

 

 

LMAO

there's a whole ton of stuff that the coaches do that no one on here knows or sees.  Coaching at a professional level is not easy, and no anyone can't do it.  If we could all do it, they wouldn't bet getting paid millions of dollars.  They'd get minimum wage like the cashier at McDonalds.  Even the ones you consider trash, eg Shula, are 1000x better than anyone else in the world, including everyone on here.  Why do you think exceptional college coaches routinely fall on their faces when they get to the professional level?

Being a professional rocket scientist is much harder than teaching HS physics, and being a professional football coach is much harder than at any other level.  To try to make an argument that someone can be successful at the professional level without being exceptional is absurd.

[arbnranger]

18 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

this is one of the most ridiculous things ever posted on this forum, and given the competition on here for such a statement is truly saying something. You don't do anything at the professional level without being exceptionally skilled at it.  He's not coaching against high school coaches, he's coaching against the best coaches in the world.  For him to be 17 games over .500 for his career is not an accident. This is Alice-level naivety.

MG in da house. Good to see you. 

[GoobyPls]

18 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

there's a whole ton of stuff that the coaches do that no one on here knows or sees.  Coaching at a professional level is not easy, and no anyone can't do it.  If we could all do it, they wouldn't bet getting paid millions of dollars.  They'd get minimum wage like the cashier at McDonalds.  Even the ones you consider trash, eg Shula, are 1000x better than anyone else in the world, including everyone on here.  Why do you think exceptional college coaches routinely fall on their faces when they get to the professional level?

Being a professional rocket scientist is much harder than teaching HS physics, and being a professional football coach is much harder than at any other level.  To try to make an argument that someone can be successful at the professional level without being exceptional is absurd.

50% of the guys coaching in the NFL wouldn’t be coaching if it wasn’t for their bloodline. You really think Shula would have a nfl job if his name was Mike Sullivan born to a carpenter  instead Don Shula 

 

 

[Mother Grabber]

10 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

50% of the guys coaching in the NFL wouldn’t be coaching if it wasn’t for their bloodline. You really think Shula would have a nfl job if his name was Mike Sullivan born to a carpenter  instead Don Shula 

 

 

pure conjecture, nothing else.  He has an NFL job.  Someone who knows a lot more about hiring NFL talent than we do seems to think he's qualified.  GMs don't keep their jobs by making Don Shula happy.  His tenure in the NFL has gone way beyond name recognition.

[GoobyPls]

6 hours ago, Mother Grabber said:

pure conjecture, nothing else.  He has an NFL job.  Someone who knows a lot more about hiring NFL talent than we do seems to think he's qualified.  GMs don't keep their jobs by making Don Shula happy.  His tenure in the NFL has gone way beyond name recognition.

Ah yes, the old they are in the NFL so they know more than god argument and no one can question their decisions. 

Sorry to break it to you but a good chunk of nfl GMs are also clueless thats they constantly rehire guys other teams have fired, just to fire those same guys themselves later on. Like I said the nfl is a boys club, connections go a long way

[panthers55]

7 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

I didn’t say he didn’t get a job after Denver, I said nobody wants him now. You do know Rivera is barely over .500 also so your Fisher point makes no sense.

My point still stands, all those guys I mentioned are mediocre coaches, all won games and now all of them are unwanted. Main reason being is that they are relics of coaching styles like Rivera, and even when they were winning records teams felt like they were winning in spite of them.

You keep changing the point because you don't have one. Coaching is hard because you have to keep being successful or like most coaches you eventually are gone. And Rivers is 65-47 which is well above 500 and getting better. He took over a 2 win team and consistently built them.into a contender despite not having good personnel in several critical areas.. You.never stop and admit you have no clue and won't now, but honestly with each post you just further prove you  make statements with wrong .or skewed  fact s you can't back up when challenged.