Am I watching the same team as y’all?(message to the haters)

[Doc Holiday]

11 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

 

So Only thing you can do to defend your opinion is post reaction gifs... I rest my case.

[*FreeFua*]

1 minute ago, Doc Holiday said:

So Only thing you can do to defend your opinion is post reaction gifs... I rest my case.

Nah I figure I’ll leave that there and go start my own thread. I figure it’s only appropriate given who I’m dealing with

Lube up 

[Definitely Not Trolling]

3 hours ago, Doc Holiday said:

So after replacing most of the coaching staff this past offseason and the Panthers being decimated by injuries. The team has some how put a 3-1 record together.

Seriously after the preseason and week 1 injuries who saw this coming? Not me, I fully expected us to struggle just to hit .500

offensive line injuries kill seasons, besides the QB they are literally the most important part of a team and ours had 1 remaining starter going into week 2. 99/100 that spells disaster for your team.

What has happened since then is our coaching staff has put together a good unit with scraps and backups a feat that should not be undersold and the #1 reason we are even 3-1 right now. It’s honestly straight up amazing!

Yes the defense hasn’t been playing well, but with that said when has a Rivera led team not eventually figured it out on Defense? He always has and it’s one of the stronger points to having him as our head coach.

The offense is expiring some growing pains yes but they are also markedly improved from the Shula years at the same time, something which has been noted on here several times.

am I the only one that is seeing marked improvements in the team and is actually pretty excited about how things are going?

I thought that after how bad this season looked like it was going to be people would be excited about us being 3-1 with thing s looking pretty good right now.

but instead we seem to be flooded with Fire Rivera threads? After a good win? Y’all want to fire a the Head Coach? You know coaching that take you to a Super Bowl, 3 consecutive Division titles and playoffs 4/5 seasons(heading to 5/6) DO NOT GROW ON TREES!

yall be trippin.

When Gano hits that field goal like 95% of peoples reaction was pure excitement and jumping around

The other 5% got so mad their faces turned as bright red as a fresh picked tomato.  Their emotions were so fragile and broken, because right before Gano hit the game winner they just looked like the biggest dumbass at the bar for screaming out how stoooopid Rivera is, and that they themselves should be the coach of the Carolina Panthers. Rednecks never get over that 1 time someone made them look stupid on TV. Then they immediately went strait to carolinahuddle.com to to make some unintelligent, emotionally butt hurt thread about fire Rivera!!!

[DeAngelo Beason]

46 minutes ago, beastson said:

When you look at the 4 games we've played, there are minimal improvements. Offense got much better from games 1  to 2 and 3, but regressed in game 4. The defense regressed from game 1 to 2,3, and 4. One thing they have be able to do is force turnovers, I give the D that, but that's about it. There's a possibility when TD returns and Reid get more acclimated that they'll improve yeah but our coverage calls and lack of front 4 pressure is a big concern. You're looking at it from a low expectations perspective and they're just doing better than what you expected. 

Good news is we're finding ways to win, but the bad news to me is the Saints. We got swept by them last year so while I believe this team fight to get revenge will prevent that from happening, but if we look at our performance vs theirs against common opponents, it is a cause of concern.

The word "regress" is used a bit too often around these forums.  It's kind of used as a blanket term to cover when the offense, or a specific player of the offense, is out of rhythm, when the defense matches up well with us and has a good game, when there are injuries, etc, etc, etc...

Having a bad game is not "regressing". One bad game is one bad game. Now if you have two, three, or four bad games, you're regressing.

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

 

Every time someone brings up the fact that we are 3-1, just remember we are 3-1 in spite of coaching.

Only people who have never played or coached a sport at any level would think this let alone post it. Otherwise you have no clue how much time, preparation and hard work goes into being prepared for a game. It doesn't happen by accident let alone in spite of coaching.

[Definitely Not Trolling]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Only people who have never played or coached a sport at any level would think this let alone post it. Otherwise you have no clue how much time, preparation and hard work goes into being prepared for a game. It doesn't happen by accident let alone in spite of coaching.

That's their default Cam and Luke argument, don't take that away from them, its all they have. Also don't tell them that 31 other teams in the league have at minimum 2 great players also.

[PantherBrew]

16 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Only people who have never played or coached a sport at any level would think this let alone post it. Otherwise you have no clue how much time, preparation and hard work goes into being prepared for a game. It doesn't happen by accident let alone in spite of coaching.

Yup.

[shaqattaq]

4 hours ago, Darvinsun said:

For myself, I just dont believe that we can win a SB with Ron as the head coach. I would like this team to win a SB. Ron is too conservative. Maybe things will change as the season progresses, but I doubt it. The defense is where I find a major weak link.  Davis being back will help Luke but whose going to help Davis. I do believe he has lost a step and maybe that will not hurt too much. I just glad he is back bc he brings a fire, leadership that is much needed and that may be all we need  on defense. Offensively I hope Moore, Samuel, Wright, Byrd are getting more snaps with the 1s. Im not sold on Funchess and Torrey.

 

Good job summing up 95% of the griping that I've seen on here without making it a bitch-fest. i agree with almost every point you make. RR is conservative by nature, which can be infuriating, Our D has not been as good as we as Panthers fans are accustomed to, and the young receivers need to be let loose. I hope Samuel's snaps were limited due to unfounded health concerns, he looked damned good! 

I disagree that we can't win with Ron. I still hope that he lightens up a bit under Tepper, but he is one of the better coaches out there IMO. Also, I got no problems with Funch. He's not a superstar, but he's a solid receiver. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

You Rivera headhunters will be the first to be calling to bring him back when that replacement sucks.

The odds of finding a replacement that will better are slim.  

Ron has his faults but none of them are worthy of losing his job.

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Otherwise you have no clue how much time, preparation and hard work goes into being prepared for a game.

Unless we're talking about Super Bowl 50...

[panthers55]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Unless we're talking about Super Bowl 50...

I think that was a little overblown. I agree they looked unprepared and Miller said they ran the same plays that they ran all year but this was the first super bowl for Cam and most of the team and coaches. Denver went to  the Super Bowl two years earlier and got crushed by Seattle looking worse than we did. I think the stage was too big that day for our guys and when things started going south the offense folded. It was a perfect storm against us...

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

I think that was a little overblown. I agree they looked unprepared and Miller said they ran the same plays that they ran all year but this was the first super bowl for Cam and most of the team and coaches. Denver went to  the Super Bowl two years earlier and got crushed by Seattle looking worse than we did. I think the stage was too big that day for our guys and when things started going south the offense folded. It was a perfect storm against us...

I don't I think that was overblown at all.

Just the opposite. I'm not sure people realize just how big a cluster @#$& that really was.

Going into the biggest game of the year against a suffocating defense, especially given that you were exposed just a few weeks before, and deciding to do exactly what you've already put on 18 games worth of game film for a defensive genius to review, is such an incredibly stupid decision that I'd only expect an absolute moron to do that.

Rivera isn't an absolute moron, but he still did that, and frankly it's unforgivable.

[EgoDogg]

I really don't know why so many people expect a new coach to win a Super Bowl so quickly. Doug Pederson is more of an anomaly than the norm. If you go based off previous coaches, he's pretty much right in the prime / when a head coach is likely to get that first Super Bowl win.

Ron Rivera:
5 years coaching to reach a Super Bowl
TBD years coaching to win a Super Bowl (on year 8)

Let's take a look at the last 7 Super Bowl winning coaches

Doug Pederson:
2 years coaching to reach a Super Bowl
2 years coaching to win a Super Bowl

Bill Belichick:
7 years coaching to reach a Super Bowl
7 years coaching to win a Super Bowl

Gary Kubiak:
9 years coaching to reach a Super Bowl
9 years coaching to win a Super Bowl

John Harbaugh:
5 years coaching to reach a Super Bowl
5 years coaching to win a Super Bowl

Pete Carroll:
7 years to reach a Super Bowl
7 years to win a Super Bowl

Tom Coughlin:
12 years to reach a Super Bowl
12 years to win a Super Bowl

Mike McCarthy:
5 years to reach a Super Bowl
5 years to win a Super bowl
(Last time in the big game was 7 years ago)

[Fox007]

6 hours ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Ron Rivera would have a new job in 5 seconds if he were fired.  Simple as that.  He makes his fair share of boneheaded decisions for sure, but results is results my friends.  He has produced as our coach.

John Fox did too.