17-3........pass rush

[CarolinaSamurai]

We had this game in the bag. What happened? A defense can't pressure the QB. It's that simple. We had mistakes, misques and problems however we had a huge lead and blew it bc Eli had all the time in the world in the pocket.

We should officially be terriffied of our non existent pass rush. 

[*FreeFua*]

Yep.

Once you factor in the fact the Giants possibly have the worst OL in the league, it’s even worse 

There’s a lot of dudes on that line making too much money not to be getting more in return from them

[ForJimmy]

We need to start activating Haynes and using him.

[beastson]

Why can't Ron design blitzes to get to the QB? You're not a good defensive mind if you can't get to the QB outside of your 4 DL

[KillaCamNewton]

Pep is a first ballot hall of famer but he overachieved last year and made us think it was okay to not make any moves at defensive end. Not sure how we could have expected him to come back and give us 11 sacks again

[Proudiddy]

It definitely is scary on the surface...  but i've been thinking about it, and i'm starting to think it may be a similar situation to the WR issue, moreso than a lack of talent or ability.  Obada makes plays and consistently gets pressure when he's in the game, but just like DJ and Curtis at WR, he seems to be lacking the opportunities to get on the field.  I'd like to see the snap counts from today, because I didn't see him out there often, but when I did, he made himself known.  Even Ron's public comments about him seem to undermine what he's done and justifies Ron's decision to play him behind others with the whole, "got to make sure he's not a one-hit wonder" line.

I have a feeling, or at least it's my hope, that more Obada and TD coming back is going to help a lot...  I also hope it's more Pep getting conditioned back into game shape after missing most of camp more than it is age, as to his slow start.

[The Lobo]

I think one surprising “x factor” is being overlooked: Shula. I know he sucks, but he’s still a coach and was with us for what, 7 years? He knows cam like the back of his hand. That D looked like they knew everything we were going to do, even when we ran cam. It took all of his will to get positive yards. They planned extremely well for us. That put us in awful situations on O. 

The D looked like they sold out to stop Barkley and barely did anything to stop the pass. We overprepared for the run it seemed. Also, the quick slants were killing us in man, they did it all game. Doesn’t matter how good your DL is, if dbs are too far off the ball and in man with a single high safety, the quick slants will dominate. Once we adjusted, they went over top. The trick play screwed us too.

we will be ok, still won while playing bad, but this front 7 is too talented. We will be fine.

[Nails]

[WesleyM]

Fwiw I was at the game and their were massive holds not being called against the giants OL.  I can think of one in particular where pepp went to spin and spun the OL with him because dude had so much jersey

[GoobyPls]

It doesn’t help our pass rush when our DBs are playing 10 yards off the line and Eli is only throwing slants

[KSpan]

11 minutes ago, thebigcat said:

Poe has been a bust so far

Poe is a huge reason the run defense has been as stout as it is and in that facet alone he is an upgrade from Star. Any pass rush from him is just cake.

[ncfan]

This team doesnt have that Elite edge guy.

 

Addison is Good but not a guy who is really going to strike fear

Pep is still solid but is old and cant rely him to beast every down.

Horton is a avg depth guy more known for his run defense 

Obada is a freak athlete but still raw and learning.

 

Washington is polar opposite as Wilks and wants 100% rusher from the front 4.  With this DL we have now, you need to mix a good ammount of blitzes just not overboard like Wilks.  McDermott had that good balance when he was here.  Washington just needs to learn and figure it out

[Immortal]

not much depth. we are so high on these average guys like Horton and Poe. We paid Short game changing money. He is solid as fug but he's not clowney. He's not Linval Joseph, he's not Fletcher Cox.

 

Peppers is amazing but Jesus he can't do that every down. How long will Addison and peppers play anyway?

[Seltzer]

11 minutes ago, WesleyM said:

Fwiw I was at the game and their were massive holds not being called against the giants OL.  I can think of one in particular where pepp went to spin and spun the OL with him because dude had so much jersey

Absolutely... any Giants fan whining about calls in the game can suck it.  I was in the stands and saw 3 blatant holds not called, so I have no idea what the refs were watching.  Poe got held and pulled to the ground on one big pass play- in fact I don't remember a single hold called on the Giants.

That being said, I am worried about the Dline like everyone else, but they were letting the Giants Oline get away with blatant holds.