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Could Rip Scherer be part of Jakes problem

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goodlay Newbie

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First off, I am not a Jake apologist and and not looking for excuses. I realize that Jake's problems started last year against Arizona. But usually, Jake has a bad game and then bounces back after a game or two. Needless to say, there hasn't been any bounce back this year. And while Jake has never been a great QB, he has always been better than what we are seeing this year. So I got to thinking and am wondering if the new QB coach, Rip Scherer, could be part of the problem.

I looked up his numbers while in Cleveland. In the four years he was the QB coach, they threw 70 TD's to 82 INT's. Of course he didn't have the best talent to start with but still, 70 TDs to 82 INTS! And this was across all four years he was there. In fact, they threw more INTs than TD's in three of his four years. So, could Scherer be part of the problem with Jake this year? His QBs do have a history of being turnover prone.

Again, I am not looking for excuses...just wondering???

Here's your answer

Jake sucks, he is past his prime and he can no longer play the game of professional football at a proficient level.

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Snake Grand Master

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Unless you've got a really good QB coach, he isn't going to make much of a difference on veteran QB like jake, good or bad.

You cant teach pocket presence and good decision making. Jake lacks both.....

The thing that worries me is Moore has progressively got worse in our system with our QB coaches. Thats the troubling part.

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My question is, why we hired anyone from the Browns coaching staff. thats like hiring Mike Vick to walk your dogs.

Davidson called that one.

Scherer has to be held accountable like anyone else would be, but in fairness I'm not sure you can judge Scherer by Delhomme.

Seeing how Matt Moore does in a real game would be a much better barometer. And barring injury, that's not likely to happen.

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We officially have the worst starting quarterback in the league! Even JaMarcus Russell, as bad as he is, is rated better than Jake Delhomme--

Jake is 33 out of 33 starting quarterbacks---33 because there have been 2 in Seattle.

So no one can tell me that Matt Moore or Feeley would do WORSE-- not a chance. Matt Moore has shown great accuracy-- he just does not always make the right decision--

But you have to give the team that spark-- against Buffalo would be the time to do it-- there will not be another chance.

John Fox will not do it though-- him and Hurney do not want to admit their idiocy in the offseason and the last few offseasons really. It will take them being shuffled out of town!

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Can't teach an old dog new tricks. Just that simple folks.

QB coaching can not be blamed for Jake's problem at this stage in his career.

It's not like the front end alignment on a car you can just take down and get adjusted. At some point and time....you are done and over with, and have to be replaced. Am I saying Jake is done..no I really think he has something left in the tank.

Bad play calling has more to do with it than QB coaching, and Jake's happy feet, and inability to read the field have been a constant. I also think Jake would have a longer career if we put some spitfire receivers out there other than Steve. We have weapons....we just don't use them.

If you don't take it out of the garage.....you can't drive it. Fox and this organization reminds me of that commercial where the guy gives the kid a toy and tells him to play with it, and the little girl a bike and to ride and enjoy it....but don't do it outside of the red box.

We take the chances of an old lady on an elevator...and I'm really getting sick of it.

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So in Jake's case, the Panthers would be better off without a QB coach then?

No, the way you measure a QB coach's success is in how he brings along the young guys.

Jake has the same habits, techniques, etc that are very difficult to try to coach out at this point in his career.

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rip is probably great for the QBs who are actually able to learn things still.

jake is an old dog. i've had old dogs before. they are now on the other side of the pond beside a hammock and a magnolia tree.

i saw what rip was doing at TC and there he was going through some really good drills with them. he did a lot to try and improve their mechanics. it isn't his fault that the starting QB isn't doing what he was coached to do. so many things that i saw rip working with them on i have seen jake do the opposite of what they were doing.

rip will be great for the next starting QB if he isn't too old.

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