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Eric Reid Press Conference


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1 hour ago, Matthias said:

Why do white high school dropouts make a higher income than black people with a two year degree?  It's all in the family.  Its more likely white high school drop outs have family that can hook them up with a decent job.  It doesn't matter whether we talk wealth or income, the reason why the numbers are so large have to do with history.  Again, black people gained their first sense of citizenship in the late 60s.  Any time we see something like this....
 

 

This literally happened.  Even when we gained citizenship in the late 60s, when we started running, we had to deal with ongoing road blocks as shown in this video.  Mass incarceration, redlining, so on and so forth.

As an attempt to explain white privilege I (thought) I came up with this exact metaphor/analogy and was thoroughly impressed with myself because I had never heard anyone explain it like this lol.  Looking back on it, it's a very obvious analogy and if someone can't understand this, they don't want to. That's not to say that one can't disagree with some of the obstacles shown in the animation post 1964, but if you dismiss the animation in general, well then, you're entrenched.

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1 hour ago, Matthias said:

Why do white high school dropouts make a higher income than black people with a two year degree?  It's all in the family.  Its more likely white high school drop outs have family that can hook them up with a decent job.  It doesn't matter whether we talk wealth or income, the reason why the numbers are so large have to do with history.  Again, black people gained their first sense of citizenship in the late 60s.  Any time we see something like this....
 

 

This literally happened.  Even when we gained citizenship in the late 60s, when we started running, we had to deal with ongoing road blocks as shown in this video.  Mass incarceration, redlining, so on and so forth.

So they kick start off the race with poor schooling system. Schools are integrated, so i guess all other races go through these same schools also

Standardized testing - Once again all races take standardized tests based off the same schooling system that black people share the classroom with

School to prison pipeline - LoL yea you go to prison if you commit crimes, welcome to America & every other country in the world

Maybe they should address the reason as to why their communities aren't thriving in schools, you know, the same schools we all went to growing up in an integrated system. Unfortunately that would make people reflect on their own decisions instead of blaming whatever it is they feel like blaming for their failures.

But Im glad I learned I had ancestors from the 1600's that carry money bags around here in America, that's totally not a racist stereotype or biased against white people. Great video, im looking forward to the next one they put out about how the white devil man done stole all the poor black peoples ideas to make lots of Money Bags.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Matthias said:

We first have to correct what has been done to black Americans before we discuss anything else.  Yes, there are poor white people, but there are full class structures in white America.  You might be a poor white American, but even then you may still live around white people who are middle class.  For black people, we are flat as a pancake.  The rich black people you talk about are so insignificant, they almost don't exist at all.  Poor black people live around other poor black people.

First this country need to fix what has been done to the descendants of slaves.  First and foremost because if you make this about poor people in general first, black people will always be last in receiving any kind of help.  Funny thing is, and this may come across as insensitive or even rude, when poor white people get money, the first thing they do is get away from black people. (If they weren't already away from black people)  You know the white flight issue?  This stems from the history of redlining, and how black neighborhoods were intentionally valued less than.  So you help poor whites, the wealth and income gaps will further increase.  Help the descendants of slaves first!  Not only is it naturally the right thing to do for your poorest of citizens (no one is poorer than black Americans), it is deserved.  Our ancestors built the richest nation on earth.  It's time we got our inheritance.

What? Deserve ? 

You said 1st thing a white person does when they come into money is to move away? What does a black person do when they come into money ?

I'll tell you and this goes for both races. Some will move away better their lives. Most will waste the money and stay right where they are.   

That's just dumb. Sounds like you just want a hand out.

Pro tip in life: Pay your own way and quit making excuses. Now i'm going guess this makes me a racist, however my son in law and my grand kids might laugh at you for thinking this. Oh and about Reid I really don't care, Dude can play I said few days ago, no thanks cause of the concussions and I thought the contract would be to high for the risk.

Still a Panther Fan 

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i laugh at the whole notion that only poc suffer from income inequality as opposed to their white counterparts. 

in fact, out of every 10 millionaires of all races, 8 are self made (i.e 1st generational) and only 2 are inherited. 

now when we talk about billionaires, of course majority of them inherited a hefty sum from a parent or relative, and yes those people are predominantly white, but these are outliers that represent a fraction of a percent of the white population and aren't indicative at all of our current socioeconomic class climate by demographic. unfortunately this isn't reflected in most scholarly articles or studies b/c these outliers significantly raise the overall average income of whites. 

but if you look at just overall growth, black and hispanic incomes are on the rise, and will continue this trend going forward

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In 2016, white families earned a median income of $61,200, a 6 percent increase from 2013. Black family income rose 10 percent to $35,400, and Hispanic family income rose 15 percent to $38,500.

remember, majority of americans that made up the "upper middle class" 50 years ago were white, but over time the income gap has narrowed amongst different races within the group, especially after the great recession in 2008 where the middle class lost about 30% of their wealth.

majority of all demographics (white, brown, black) now fall in the contemporary "middle class" category

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Fast forward to 2016 and two trends have emerged which highlight the degree to which the “American middle class” can no longer serve as an implicit proxy for a group that is predominantly white.

First, the demography of the nation is changing rapidly. As our colleague Bill Frey has demonstrated, the U.S. is well on its way to becoming a country where black and brown diversity predominates. In 2017, for the first time, the majority of American children under 10 were black and/or brown. From a purely mathematical perspective, this implies that at some point in the not too distant future, the composition of the American middle class will begin to mirror that of American society as a whole.

Second, in the context of greater economic inequality in the U.S., a recent recession, and a 2016 Presidential election outcome that highlighted the plight of low-income white Americans, there is a heightened general public awareness that some previously middle-class whites are no longer “middle class.”

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/social-mobility-memos/2018/02/27/the-middle-class-is-becoming-race-plural-just-like-the-rest-of-america/

 

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1 hour ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

i laugh at the whole notion that only poc suffer from income inequality as opposed to their white counterparts. 

in fact, out of every 10 millionaires of all races, 8 are self made (i.e 1st generational) and only 2 are inherited. 

now when we talk about billionaires, of course majority of them inherited a hefty sum from a parent or relative, and yes those people are predominantly white, but these are outliers that represent a fraction of a percent of the white population and aren't indicative at all of our current socioeconomic class climate by demographic. unfortunately this isn't reflected in most scholarly articles or studies b/c these outliers significantly raise the overall average income of whites. 

but if you look at just overall growth, black and hispanic incomes are on the rise, and will continue this trend going forward

remember, majority of americans that made up the "upper middle class" 50 years ago were white, but over time the income gap has narrowed amongst different races within the group, especially after the great recession in 2008 where the middle class lost about 30% of their wealth.

majority of all demographics (white, brown, black) now fall in the contemporary "middle class" category

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/social-mobility-memos/2018/02/27/the-middle-class-is-becoming-race-plural-just-like-the-rest-of-america/

 

Yea... I don't think you quite understand the article that you are quoting.  Its main point (or at least what it manages to prove) isn't in regards to inequality, but simply that the middle-class now encompasses more minorities than before essentially due to the rising population of the latter.  It doesn't provide anything substantial to the discussion.

Black and Hispanic incomes may be rising, but the financial inequality between the races isn't getting any better.  This is a proven fact.  Arguing otherwise is 100% wrong.  Any credible research supports this.  I don't understand why it keeps being disputed.  It is a fact.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianthompson1/2018/02/18/the-racial-wealth-gap-addressing-americas-most-pressing-epidemic/#361113dd7a48

 Yet RZW shows that far from getting better, the total economic picture for black people is still deteriorating. In fact, by 2020 (just two years away) black and Latino households are projected to lose even more wealth: 18 percent for the former, 12 percent for the latter. After those declines, the median white household will own 86 times more wealth than its black counterpart, and 68 times more wealth than its Latino one.

So while it is true that African-Americans have made progress in income, moreso than whites, they are still more likely to be lower-income and less likely to be higher-income.  

You will probably argue that this is because of the top 1% (dominated by white people) inflates the numbers for whites.  Studies have shown though that this is still doesn't change anything.  The median white wealth is still twelve times higher than the median black wealth. 

https://www.epi.org/publication/racial-inequalities-in-wages-income-and-wealth-show-that-mlks-work-remains-unfinished/

https://www.epi.org/blog/racial-gaps-in-wages-wealth-and-more-a-quick-recap/

Hell, leaving the discussion of race, income/financial inequality in general continues to worsen in America.  

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/inequality-is-rising-globally-and-soaring-in-the-u-s.html

So no, things aren't getting better.

Again, it goes back to what I told another poster earlier.  The only argument is why.  That is the only discussion to be had.  When you start trying to argue that white people face the same financial inequality as black people, it is 100% false.  Every research backs this up.  The only debate to be had is why this is happening and how much inequality is necessary (because inherently there will always be financial inequality, that is just the nature of the game; its a matter of how much is too much).

We are no closer to financial inequality, whether you are looking at it black vs whites or overall as a country, now than we were 10 or 20 or 30 years ago.  It's gotten worse.

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