Eric Reid Press Conference

[Matthias]

10 minutes ago, WarHeel said:

Not sure if you’re actually reading my posts or not but I’ll try to echo my thoughts one last time before bed as I’ve already wasted most of my evening.

 

I agree there is a racial income gap. What’re your thoughts on promoting change for this and how do you justify the change for one population versus the next if there are outliers from the norm in each population? How do we make things fair for everyone based on their familial background because we have also clearly determined that ones whiteness does not necessarily equal ones success either? It has been argued that the generation baton pass if you will is a sole determination of ones success so are we raising awareness for only one particular group of those less fortunate?

We first have to correct what has been done to black Americans before we discuss anything else.  Yes, there are poor white people, but there are full class structures in white America.  You might be a poor white American, but even then you may still live around white people who are middle class.  For black people, we are flat as a pancake.  The rich black people you talk about are so insignificant, they almost don't exist at all.  Poor black people live around other poor black people.

First this country need to fix what has been done to the descendants of slaves.  First and foremost because if you make this about poor people in general first, black people will always be last in receiving any kind of help.  Funny thing is, and this may come across as insensitive or even rude, when poor white people get money, the first thing they do is get away from black people. (If they weren't already away from black people)  You know the white flight issue?  This stems from the history of redlining, and how black neighborhoods were intentionally valued less than.  So you help poor whites, the wealth and income gaps will further increase.  Help the descendants of slaves first!  Not only is it naturally the right thing to do for your poorest of citizens (no one is poorer than black Americans), it is deserved.  Our ancestors built the richest nation on earth.  It's time we got our inheritance.

[Sub Zero]

4 hours ago, WarHeel said:

I would argue that the outdated inequality argument is tiresome. 

And you would be a fuging idiot who is blind to reality..

[ImaginaryKev]

38 minutes ago, ZoneRead said:

I thought Trump was to help out the  poor white men.

right?

 

actual I didn't pay attention to  2016 election  but I thought that's what poor white guys  liked Trump for so shouldn't  poor white people be winning since Trump is in office.

Well yeah, he worked that whole "the liberals only work for blacks, gays, and muslims, and they've forgotten about you working class white people, and look at this rich black dude protesting our troops, don't you just hate that?" and framed thinly veiled euphemisms and dog whistles just the right way to get a certain segment of the population fired up and the rest was history. He even brings up the NFL any time he needs to fire up his base. The so called liberal media won't even call racism what it is, they referred to it as "economic anxiety."

Also, this:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/08/donald-trump-johnstown-pennsylvania-supporters-215800

"The thing that irritates me to no end is this NFL poo,” Schilling told me in her living room. “I’m about ready to go over the top with this poo. We do not watch no NFL now.” They’re Dallas Cowboys fans. “We banned ’em. We don’t watch it.”

Schilling looked at her husband, Dave McCabe, who’s 67 and a retired high school basketball coach. She nodded at me. “Tell him,” she said to McCabe, “what you said the NFL is …”

McCabe looked momentarily wary. He laughed a little. “I don’t remember saying that,” he said unconvincingly.

Schilling was having none of it. “You’re the one that told me, liar,” she said.

She looked at me.

The NFL?

“Niggers for life,” Schilling said.

“For life,” McCabe added."

 

[arbnranger]

1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

tremendous things going on here 

You always crack me up man 

[Matthias]

If this country ever invested into the American descendants of slaves, we would see a true beginning to a very special country in the world.  We would truly come together, in terms of integration.  White Americans will willingly want to live around wealthier black families, and I don't mean this in a harsh way.  Redlining caused white people who weren't racist, to be racist in action because they didn't want live around black people in seeing their own property values drop.  With money going into black communities, then you will see industry develop there.  You will see black businesses come into existence, employing people and giving them excellent wages.  All that good stuff.

[PntherPryd]

13 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

And you would be a fuging idiot who is blind to reality..

I spent a significant amount of time today going back and blocking your posts attacking another poster in this thread.  I gave out warnings to both of you but purposely did not ban either.... and the thread has thrived since then.  You log back on and bam, start up again.  

Take the night off and when/if you come back do not personally attack other members or vacations will grow longer.

[PntherPryd]

3 minutes ago, Matthias said:

If this country ever invested into the American descendants of slaves, we would see a true beginning to a very special country in the world.  We would truly come together, in terms of integration.  White Americans will willingly want to live around wealthier black families, and I don't mean this in a harsh way.  Redlining caused white people who weren't racist, to be racist in action because they didn't want live around black people in seeing their own property values drop.  With money going into black communities, then you will see industry develop there.  You will see black businesses come into existence, employing people and giving them excellent wages.  All that good stuff.

You see that as a practical matter?  And I'm assuming by investing you mean redistributing revenue to the designated recipients?  

[Matthias]

2 minutes ago, PntherPryd said:

You see that as a practical matter?  And I'm assuming by investing you mean redistributing revenue to the designated recipients?  

It's practical.  Of course it would be an investment over a period of years.  The full cost would be in the trillions over an unspecified amount of time.  Ultimately, the money that is invested, will be invested into black Americans descendants of slaves, which is money invested into the country itself.  We're not losing anything.

[arbnranger]

I appreciate seeing some well thought out perspectives here tonight. 

[saX man]

So, what's happening in this thread? lol

[PntherPryd]

4 minutes ago, Matthias said:

It's practical.  Of course it would be an investment over a period of years.  The full cost would be in the trillions over an unspecified amount of time.  Ultimately, the money that is invested, will be invested into black Americans descendants of slaves, which is money invested into the country itself.  We're not losing anything.

With the damage being done to our debt, with the amount desperately needed to fix our infrastructure and other demands on our resources I just cannot agree that it is "practical".   High-minded and noble, yes.  But if you even get to the point of such a program becoming reality how many Americans can claim they are deserving?  So just write them a check?  Politically this is impractical atm.

[Matthias]

5 minutes ago, PntherPryd said:

With the damage being done to our debt, with the amount desperately needed to fix our infrastructure and other demands on our resources I just cannot agree that it is "practical".   High-minded and noble, yes.  But if you even get to the point of such a program becoming reality how many Americans can claim they are deserving?  So just write them a check?  Politically this is impractical atm.

Don't be too fixated on our national debt.  Most of that is money we owe ourselves, or the federal reserve.  Of course it goes without saying, we waste a lot of money in this country.  Yet all in all, when we need money for something, we find it.  Think about the trillions of dollars we spent in the bailouts of banks and so forth.  Where did that money come from?  We tend not to ask this question about the bailouts.  Yet the biggest difference between investing in the wealthy and investing in actual citizens, citizens will put that money into the economy.

Plus reparations will take this government back to the days of the New Deal, where monopolies were put in check.  You will have new competition that will give better benefits to their employees.  Ultimately high quality of life for everyone, as black people are lifted up.  In this world, I imagine black people will invest into things like clean energy, and may develop actual solar energy panels that are cheap to buy.  With new technology being developed, the country would easily earn its way out of any lasting national debt.  This is the payoff.  Yet as things are now, and the wealth being sapped from the bottom to the top, that's not going to encourage anyone to develop things that will make life easier, or pay off the national debt.  This is really transformative politics, starting with the first investment into black Americans.

[toldozer]

55 minutes ago, PntherPryd said:

I spent a significant amount of time today going back and blocking your posts attacking another poster in this thread.  I gave out warnings to both of you but purposely did not ban either.... and the thread has thrived since then.  You log back on and bam, start up again.  

Take the night off and when/if you come back do not personally attack other members or vacations will grow longer.

I'm shocked that sub zero couldn't behave like an adult.  His temper tantrums in the college bball forum are embarrassing to fellow DUKE fans. 

[Definitely Not Trolling]

1 hour ago, Sub Zero said:

And you would be a fuging idiot who is blind to reality..

Just cause liberals parade up and down about inequality does not make it true. I cant wait to hear how tech companies refuse to hire all those "available" women that are computer programmers again. Then they will scream misogynist if you mention there's only 1 woman per 50 men that graduate in computer engineering. Same ole song for the libs when facts come up, strait to racism or misogyny or nazis or whatever.