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Eric Reid Press Conference

Saca312

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ImaginaryKev Grand Master

ImaginaryKev

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5 hours ago, Snake said:

People respected Jim Brown and Ali and a nation wanted to watch them. Why because they were great players. Let's not forget Ali was actually stripped of his title fight a war that was killing millions of people. Kaps fighting for the drug dealers and criminals while ignoring the people getting killed by those people. You know the innocent people. So don't compare great people to Kap. 

This is utter bullshit

White people, moderates especially, hated Ali, Jim Brown, and Mlk for that matter. People didn't respect them til after the fact when they realized their protests were actually totally justified. History is literally repeating itself right now. 

Edit: and you literally pulled that whole "hes fighting for drug dealers" poo out of thin air. Keep posting though, we like it better when racist trash identifies itself

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TheSpecialJuan

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2 minutes ago, Mage said:

I don't need to answer anything.  You said people have equal opportunity regardless of race.  If that was the case, there wouldn't be a massive difference in wage gap.  You can't make a baseless statement without a defense.

I'm not calling you racist.  I would never demean someone like that without having met them unless they said something so blatantly offensive (which I haven't seen you do yet).  And I hope you don't think me responding to you means I have anything personal against you or anything (honestly, I just enjoy a good debate).  

However, if you want to know, I think the reason for the wage gap is absolutely because of race.  Now if you want to debate whether it is intentional, have at it.  But I don't see how anyone can look at that gap and not point at it being race-related.  It would be illogical to think otherwise, quite frankly.  Especially on such a large-scale.

I agree with this 

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ImaginaryKev Grand Master

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7 minutes ago, WarHeel said:

I can’t speak for everyone but it is statistically evident that there is a significant gap between ethnicities when it comes to furthering education. 

 

If if we are talking purely on a wage standpoint a lot of this is based on salary negotiations. Women of all races will have to negotiate their worth more than a white male would have to. At the end of the day a resume speaks for itself and if folks continue to settle for less than there will always be less opportunity for more cash flow.

There's also a model minority myth in america which is used to drive a wedge between minorities and paint certain groups as more hardworking than others

http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/04/19/524571669/model-minority-myth-again-used-as-a-racial-wedge-between-asians-and-blacks

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Mage Grand Master

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14 minutes ago, WarHeel said:

I can’t speak for everyone but it is statistically evident that there is a significant gap between ethnicities when it comes to furthering education. 

Probably because minorities on average can't afford it as easily as white people on average.  It doesn't mean black people are born with the mentality to not care about education.  

And again, values instilled in a family are still tied to the system.   I forgot who did the study (Dan Gilbert maybe?  Or someone in his book), but lower-income families are more likely to promote and value outward qualities (such as following authority and such) whereas a higher-income family is more likely to promote inward qualities (for example, critical thinking and leadership).  So even if minorities are more likely to not value education, it is still tied to the system.  LIS, it isn't like minorities are born and immediately just happen to value education less than white people do.  There is a reason for it.

This is what people overlook when it comes to systematic oppression.  You can't just look at one case and judge based off that.  It is a LONG trickle-down process.  

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WarHeel Mentor

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3 minutes ago, Mage said:

I don't need to answer anything.  You said people have equal opportunity regardless of race.  If that was the case, there wouldn't be a massive difference in wage gap.  You can't make a baseless statement without a defense.

I'm not calling you racist.  I would never demean someone like that without having met them unless they said something so blatantly offensive (which I haven't seen you do yet).  And I hope you don't think me responding to you means I have anything personal against you or anything (honestly, I just enjoy a good debate).  

However, if you want to know, I think the reason for the wage gap is absolutely because of race.  Now if you want to debate whether it is intentional, have at it.  But I don't see how anyone can look at that gap and not point at it being race-related.  It would be illogical to think otherwise, quite frankly.  Especially on such a large-scale.

I appreciate you not generalizing me as many have done.

 

Obsviously, as ive already stated in a previous post, the gap is “race-related.” Women and minorities alike share the challenge of salary equality in many (but not all) settings.

 

However, my argument this entire post has been that there is equal opportunity for all to excel and prosper  in life and where salary is a concern for some, a crippling amount of debt post graduation might be something that some might not have to deal with due to opportunity that is given to them because of the color of their skin. 

 

I don’t want to equate one hardship for another, just simply stating that certain systems in our work force and education system are questionable. And that is not solely a minority thing.

 

As I have had others tell me, I can’t speak for them. Just like others can’t speak for me: a white guy who graduated a HBCU with nearly 200k in debt while others in his class had the opportunity to start life fresh out of grad school with no grad school loans and stipends to pay their way through. Those opportunities were nor afforded to me, even though my application to the university read “Caucasian and other-Native American.”

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4 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

why do you think that is?

so black people just don't negotiate well enough? oh and they're more willing to settle for less? that's your explanation? lol

I think the fact that negotiation is something the average American is unsure is of is a portion of a bigger picture, yes.

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