Panthers place safety Da'Norris Searcy on injured reserve

[MHS831]

Irony or the Curse of the Even Numbered Year!

We entered camp weak or thin at OL, S, and CB.

Then Cockrell goes down.  Everyone is on Bradberry as a bust.  Munnerlyn is who is is, no longer what he was (mediocre).  Jackson is raw.  We start Raw, Bust, and Has Been.

At S, we had a 38-year old and a player who lost his job in another town. We have a special teamer there.  We drafted S depth in the third rond.  He looked confused dring the preseason.  Now we have a 38-year old SS, a special teamer, and a mid round rookie. 

A few years ago, Minnesota had promise but was reputed to have a terrible OL.  Today, we have 40% of that OL on our roster.  On IR, they are likely to give up a few sacks.  We have a scrub LG and the RG is on  IR trying to ignore the voices and ceiling pirates coming after him. At C we have a player who has played about 50% of the time over the past 2 seasons and has been on a decline for the past 4.  He makes $10m though, and combined with his brother, may be worst sibling investment since the collapse of the Lehman Brothers a decade ago.  We have Moton, a second-year pro not even starting at the beginning of training camp, as our best OL. 

At least our WRs are balling, right?

[Icege]

17 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

To the Eric Reid crowd, don't bother...

 

Definitely prefer Reid but ayyyy Cole Luke was looking decent last year during camp. Glad he is getting an opportunity if it happens.

[Mr. Scot]

10 hours ago, Carolina-Chuck1000th said:

Be quiet old man. You’re irrelevant and everyone knows thats

Well hey, at least I don't have to continuously spend time re-rrgistering under new names.

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, Icege said:

Definitely prefer Reid but ayyyy Cole Luke was looking decent last year during camp. Glad he is getting an opportunity if it happens.

Voth pointed out that Reid has a history of concussions too.

As I recall, he got his first one after a hit from our old buddy Mike Tolbert.

[Mr. Scot]

3 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Irony or the Curse of the Even Numbered Year!

We entered camp weak or thin at OL, S, and CB.

Then Cockrell goes down.  Everyone is on Bradberry as a bust.  Munnerlyn is who is is, no longer what he was (mediocre).  Jackson is raw.  We start Raw, Bust, and Has Been.

At S, we had a 38-year old and a player who lost his job in another town. We have a special teamer there.  We drafted S depth in the third rond.  He looked confused dring the preseason.  Now we have a 38-year old SS, a special teamer, and a mid round rookie. 

A few years ago, Minnesota had promise but was reputed to have a terrible OL.  Today, we have 40% of that OL on our roster.  On IR, they are likely to give up a few sacks.  We have a scrub LG and the RG is on  IR trying to ignore the voices and ceiling pirates coming after him. At C we have a player who has played about 50% of the time over the past 2 seasons and has been on a decline for the past 4.  He makes $10m though, and combined with his brother, may be worst sibling investment since the collapse of the Lehman Brothers a decade ago.  We have Moton, a second-year pro not even starting at the beginning of training camp, as our best OL. 

At least our WRs are balling, right?

Did you mean to say RT on injured reserve?

Turner is out but he hasn't been IR'd.

[KARASMATIC444]

So did we sign Cole Luke or Josh Hawkins to fill searcys spot? We have conflicting information

 

[Davidson Deac II]

4 hours ago, JakeDel5674 said:

PREACHINGGGGGGGGGGGGGG. Our front four has been average as fug for going on two and half years. 

No it hasn't, unless you consider top five in the league average.  Third in the league in sacks last year, with the vast majority of them coming from the dline.  

Consistent pressure is mostly an illusion, and something that almost no team gets against qb's who get the ball out quick.  Even Jacksonville last year experienced times where their pass rush couldn't get to the qb enough to harry him.  Usually against vets who were good at getting the ball out accurately before the rush can get to them.  We have at least four games a year against those types of qb's. 

 

If you expect consistent pressure against a guy like Ryan or Brees, well your expectations will rarely be met.  The best one can hope for is that the defense gets enough pressure on them to make them uncomfortable at times.  We do that only on occasion against Ryan, and almost never against Brees.  When we had a good secondary (2015), that was enough to beat them a decent amount of times.  Since that time, our secondary has been subpar, and the results have not been good.  

[KillerKat]

11 minutes ago, KARASMATIC444 said:

So did we sign Cole Luke or Josh Hawkins to fill searcys spot? We have conflicting information

 

Hawkins

https://www.panthers.com/team/transactions/

[Woodie]

Some seem to think these safeties that hit the market this year were actually better than they are (I find it funny that most of these guys were mocked anytime we played them in the past - or when they played here - yet are now being talked about as saviors of or defensive backfield). 

Yes, we needed, and still need, better players back there, but few of these guys would have provided anything more than the guys we have or brought in.  Bottom line is that they are not very good, and no, there is not a significant difference between them and the guys we have.  I think people fell in love with the IDEA that any safety out there would be an upgrade, but that is not the reality.

The only guy that might make a difference is Reid, but he is still a limited safety that has a significant history of concussions...so much so that his next one could, and very likely will be career ending.  Yet, he expects to be paid as a high end safety.  And that doesn't even take into account that he could be divisive in the locker room.  So, basically, the risk-reward potential with him might not be worth it.