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Thread on theories for the increase in ACL injuries the past few years


Ricky Spanish

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A doctor who posts regularly on all of Reddit's major sports subreddits just posted his theories on why there have been an increase in ACL injuries lately. It's a great read, and if you click his profile you can read plenty of his other threads on injuries across major sports. They're all fascinating. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/9fsxab/oc_3_potential_underlying_causes_of_the_nfls_acl/

Makes you think that a controlled environment would only benefit us for training camp moving forward, as the hot climate in Spartanburg could definitely lead to harder surfaces and an increase in ACL injury probability. 

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Players are bigger and faster than ever due to modern training techniques, this impacting both variables in the force equation - those variables being mass and acceleration. ACLs are still ACLs. There's no way to make them stronger. So we're asking more from those same ligaments and it's no wonder we're seeing more injuries. It's kind of like how a modified vehicle tends to be harder on stock drivetrain components. You're asking those parts to deal with greater forces than they were designed to handle.

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Good stuff. I think knowing your body and what it can and cannot do at a given time/circumstance goes a long way too. Landing, sudden jumps, sudden cuts and changes in direction etc... should be done when your body says its ok, not your mind. Especially us non athletes. We are playing a pickup game, we're feeling good and try some stuff we know we can't do or too old/out of shape to do. Listen to your body, not your mind. That prevents  many injuries

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we had this morbidly obese guy, like 450 pounds easy, who was in for one thing or another. he was so fat it was assumed he wasn't going to sneak out of his bed, but sure enough he woke up confused and needing to vomit so he somehow got out of bed and shuffled towards the toilet. miraculously at the toilet (last time he'll ever walk) he finally collapses, shits himself, and starts vomiting everywhere. 

when we finally found him, he was wedged between the toilet and the wall in a kneeling position. this is actually the way a lot of fat people die; they get stuck there because their guts kinda migrate downward and they lack the strength to pull themselves out. Anyway I was called in because I'm the person called in when poo Needs To Get Done. Thank god he had a gait belt on. I climbed on top of the toilet and guard rail and basically deadlifted him out of there. He slipped backwards to land on his back with his right leg getting caught in the process. Remember he was in a kneeling position? Yeah, that shin was still on the floor when he crashed backwards. It finally flopped out like a dead fish. 

He then got stuck under the sink and almost suffocated because his chest fast pressed into his throat. We managed to get a sheet under him and pull him out. 

Long story short he tore his acl when i pulled him up out of the space between the toilet and wall.

the only reason I'm telling you this story is because we had to send him to the zoo for an mri. 

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16 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

we had this morbidly obese guy, like 450 pounds easy, who was in for one thing or another. he was so fat it was assumed he wasn't going to sneak out of his bed, but sure enough he woke up confused and needing to vomit so he somehow got out of bed and shuffled towards the toilet. miraculously at the toilet (last time he'll ever walk) he finally collapses, shits himself, and starts vomiting everywhere. 

when we finally found him, he was wedged between the toilet and the wall in a kneeling position. this is actually the way a lot of fat people die; they get stuck there because their guts kinda migrate downward and they lack the strength to pull themselves out. Anyway I was called in because I'm the person called in when poo Needs To Get Done. Thank god he had a gait belt on. I climbed on top of the toilet and guard rail and basically deadlifted him out of there. He slipped backwards to land on his back with his right leg getting caught in the process. Remember he was in a kneeling position? Yeah, that shin was still on the floor when he crashed backwards. It finally flopped out like a dead fish. 

He then got stuck under the sink and almost suffocated because his chest fast pressed into his throat. We managed to get a sheet under him and pull him out. 

Long story short he tore his acl when i pulled him up out of the space between the toilet and wall.

the only reason I'm telling you this story is because we had to send him to the zoo for an mri. 

Jesus Christ. How do people let themselves go to this degree?

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21 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

we had this morbidly obese guy, like 450 pounds easy, who was in for one thing or another. he was so fat it was assumed he wasn't going to sneak out of his bed, but sure enough he woke up confused and needing to vomit so he somehow got out of bed and shuffled towards the toilet. miraculously at the toilet (last time he'll ever walk) he finally collapses, shits himself, and starts vomiting everywhere. 

when we finally found him, he was wedged between the toilet and the wall in a kneeling position. this is actually the way a lot of fat people die; they get stuck there because their guts kinda migrate downward and they lack the strength to pull themselves out. Anyway I was called in because I'm the person called in when poo Needs To Get Done. Thank god he had a gait belt on. I climbed on top of the toilet and guard rail and basically deadlifted him out of there. He slipped backwards to land on his back with his right leg getting caught in the process. Remember he was in a kneeling position? Yeah, that shin was still on the floor when he crashed backwards. It finally flopped out like a dead fish. 

He then got stuck under the sink and almost suffocated because his chest fast pressed into his throat. We managed to get a sheet under him and pull him out. 

Long story short he tore his acl when i pulled him up out of the space between the toilet and wall.

the only reason I'm telling you this story is because we had to send him to the zoo for an mri. 

This is why I come to this site. 

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1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

we had this morbidly obese guy, like 450 pounds easy, who was in for one thing or another. he was so fat it was assumed he wasn't going to sneak out of his bed, but sure enough he woke up confused and needing to vomit so he somehow got out of bed and shuffled towards the toilet. miraculously at the toilet (last time he'll ever walk) he finally collapses, shits himself, and starts vomiting everywhere. 

when we finally found him, he was wedged between the toilet and the wall in a kneeling position. this is actually the way a lot of fat people die; they get stuck there because their guts kinda migrate downward and they lack the strength to pull themselves out. Anyway I was called in because I'm the person called in when poo Needs To Get Done. Thank god he had a gait belt on. I climbed on top of the toilet and guard rail and basically deadlifted him out of there. He slipped backwards to land on his back with his right leg getting caught in the process. Remember he was in a kneeling position? Yeah, that shin was still on the floor when he crashed backwards. It finally flopped out like a dead fish. 

He then got stuck under the sink and almost suffocated because his chest fast pressed into his throat. We managed to get a sheet under him and pull him out. 

Long story short he tore his acl when i pulled him up out of the space between the toilet and wall.

the only reason I'm telling you this story is because we had to send him to the zoo for an mri. 

man I love when Fiz posts 

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