Remember Deshaun Foster?

[solidkjames]

I keep reading in the paper and on various message boards that Jake is our best QB so we have to go with him. Ok, isn't John Fox the same head coach who ran Deshaun over DeAngelo for 2 or 3 years before finally realizing he was making a mistake? Same thing goes for Jake, eventually he will have to suck up his pride and bench the man because everyone who looks at the Panthers sees the same thing we all do. A QB who is making the offense one dimensional and having the head coach adjust to his weak arm instead of replacing him.

[2jakefansinva]

I keep reading in the paper and on various message boards that Jake is our best QB so we have to go with him. Ok, isn't John Fox the same head coach who ran Deshaun over DeAngelo for 2 or 3 years before finally realizing he was making a mistake? Same thing goes for Jake, eventually he will have to suck up his pride and bench the man because everyone who looks at the Panthers sees the same thing we all do. A QB who is making the offense one dimensional and having the head coach adjust to his weak arm instead of replacing him.

From what I remember we went through the same thing with Stephen Davis. I believe it finally took Davis to step down from the starting nod.

[Catdaddy]

You mean fumble-a-potamus?

[CRA]

and there was a list a mile long by some why DeAngelo shouldn't be given the role and Fumblin Foster was still the best option despite his faults.

NEWSFLASH - when a player sucks EPIC BALLS like Jake and Foster. You bench them.

[PanthersPhan18]

and there was a list a mile long by some why DeAngelo shouldn't be given the role and Fumblin Foster was still the best option despite his faults.

NEWSFLASH - when a player sucks EPIC BALLS like Jake and Foster. You bench them.

Word!

You can't keep saying we don't have better options without knowing what Moore is capable of doing in the field. And to find out, you have to play him.

[mmmbeans]

don't forget that our O-line sucked EPIC BALLS every second that foster started on this team.

[CRA]

don't forget that our O-line sucked EPIC BALLS every second that foster started on this team.

DeAngelo made plays behind that same OL. DeAngelo didn't hurt the team each week.

Foster left and went to SF....the only time you probably saw him last year is when Singletary ripped his head of and shiat down his neck for fumbling.

[Catdaddy]

don't forget that our O-line sucked EPIC BALLS every second that foster started on this team.

That maybe true,but the o-line don't fumble the ball for him.He was the second coming of Ricky Watters!

[mmmbeans]

DeAngelo made plays behind that same OL. DeAngelo didn't hurt the team each week.

Foster left and went to SF....the only time you probably saw him last year is when Singletary ripped his head of and shiat down his neck for fumbling.

and foster didn't hurt the team when he was running behind davis. i'm not getting down on williams or saying foster was any good, i'm saying that the whole offense improved greatly at the same time williams was promoted to starter.

[mmmbeans]

That maybe true,but the o-line don't fumble the ball for him.He was the second coming of Ricky Watters!

very true, but it didn't help when he got stood up consistently at the line of scrimmage and was stripped time and again.

[CRA]

and foster didn't hurt the team when he was running behind davis. i'm not getting down on williams or saying foster was any good, i'm saying that the whole offense improved greatly at the same time williams was promoted to starter.

but in 07 Foster hurt the team and DeAngelo was running behind the same line and showed he was a better option....that is the point.

The 2003 season earned many guys too many extra years. Fosters' 03 season was highly overrated b/c of 2 plays.

[solidkjames]

but in 07 Foster hurt the team and DeAngelo was running behind the same line and showed he was a better option....that is the point.

The 2003 season earned many guys too many extra years. Fosters' 03 season was highly overrated b/c of 2 plays.

That is continuing right now with our QB situation. John Fox is too loyal to one of the worst QB's in the league. At one time Jake was halfway decent, those years are LONG GONE.

[panthers55]

Revisionist history at its best. Foster started because he was the best back in 2006 and the first part of 2007. With his continued fumbles, decreasing YPC and William's increased grasp of pass blocking and willingness to run between the tackles instead of always take it outside, DeAngelo emerged as a legitimate option and consequently got more playing time until he was the feature back at the end of the season. He was soft in 2007 and was called out by Testeverde for not wanting to be in there every play and giving 100%. He many times would pull himself out for a blow after a long run or a series or two. It wasn't until 2008 that he actually worked out seriously and put 100% into it and the results were amazing.

Fox put him in there when he was the best option and showed he could do the job. Just like he put in Stewart sparingly at first and has worked him more as he has developed and picked up the pass blocking in particular. This whole "only going with vets and being too loyal" flies in the face of the fact that we have started several rookies over veterans over the past several years right out of the box. These urban legends get repeated so much people think they are true.

[scpanther22]

and there was a list a mile long by some why DeAngelo shouldn't be given the role and Fumblin Foster was still the best option despite his faults.

NEWSFLASH - when a player sucks EPIC BALLS like Jake and Foster. You bench them.

They were talking about this on the radio...gantt was saying fox just does not trust the young guys..this is the reason why jarrett is on the bench..and gets passed two only twice the entire year....when are passing game sucks