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Michael Irvin throws shade at Smitty, Steve replies


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5 hours ago, NorthTryon said:

Irvin wasn’t throwing shade.  It was the truth.  Smitty was in decline, but was the same mentally as he was here.  It was a little sad to see all of a sudden that Baltimore couldn’t develop young receivers just like we never could when he was here.  Also, he demanded the ball and their offense suffered just like the San Fran game when he wouldn’t come out, but couldn’t accelerate. The best game he had in Baltimore was against us because he was highly motivated and some insanely lucky bounces.  

Irvin & Smitty Both were good, but Irvin was a three time champion & worked hard during his time in the league too.  And I find it funny that Steve lost his mind flipping out over commentary even though he is supposedly past all that.  That is why at the time he had to go.  Bum ass Reggie Bush trying to instigate too.

Yeah because our WR development has been off the hook since he left, right?  

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If anything I think this just goes to prove how little research some of these analysts do before they broadcast and blurt out the first thing they think of. 

Its the research teams and stat guys behind the scenes that whisper into their ear that make them what they are most of the time, and when they are left to freelance (like in the video) it is typically an unmitigated disaster. 

I haven’t been a big Steve Smith guy for some time but good for him. Irvin is a pompous douchebag. 

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Truth somewhere in the middle. 

But reality is, Irvin messed up as that was a diss to 89.  89 knows when his peak was and he knows what he was in Baltimore.   But even in Baltimore 89 meet the defintion of being a WR a QB could rely on.  He was going to run every route and play correctly and catch whatever you got to him.  So he really was what Irvin claimed Flacco didn't have.  89 wasn't the top tier playmaker at that point but that wasn't Irvin's point.  

Irvin knew he fugged up too.  That was obvious.  You could tell he was like, oh man, I just went and did it.  Everyone on the cast seemed to realize it at the same time. 

Tired of Irvin and a lot of these older former players.  They pretty much have done this for so long they phone in the job each week.  All just winging it.  

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7 hours ago, NorthTryon said:

Irvin wasn’t throwing shade.  It was the truth.  Smitty was in decline, but was the same mentally as he was here.  It was a little sad to see all of a sudden that Baltimore couldn’t develop young receivers just like we never could when he was here.  Also, he demanded the ball and their offense suffered just like the San Fran game when he wouldn’t come out, but couldn’t accelerate. The best game he had in Baltimore was against us because he was highly motivated and some insanely lucky bounces.  

Irvin & Smitty Both were good, but Irvin was a three time champion & worked hard during his time in the league too.  And I find it funny that Steve lost his mind flipping out over commentary even though he is supposedly past all that.  That is why at the time he had to go.  Bum ass Reggie Bush trying to instigate too.

Michael Irvin was a cokehead on a stacked roster. Throw prime Smitty on those Cowboys teams and Aikman looks like Tom Brady

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After looking at the video, I honestly believe that Michael Irvin forgot that Steve Smith played for the Ravens. He then tried to smooth it over, but Smitty wasn't having it. Plus, Reggie Bush tried to instigate the situation and it just got blown out of proportion. It's amazing to me to see so many people try to downplay Irvin's achievements. Both he and Smitty were great receivers. You don't have to tear one down to build up another. Let's just leave it at that.

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Both Irvin and Smitty were extremely talented AND both had extremely destructive personalities. They both attacked teammates on multiple occasions and only got away with it because they were ballers. Michael Irvin stabbed another player in the neck with scissors for not letting him cut in line in the barber chair. 

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4 hours ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Yet he was still their best receiver when he retired???  Better than Boldin ever was for them.  Don't really understand the logic here...  Basically everything in your statement is a fabrication.

They were garbage when he retired missing the playoffs and complaining about Flacco.  So Steve didn't hurt his knee before the San Fran playoff game limiting him in that game?  So anybody else had real success while he was a Panther WR during Smitty's tenure besides Moose, Proehl, and maybe Lafell?  Michael Irvin wasn't a championship player and one of the hardest working receivers in the game?  The Ravens didn't win a Super Bowl shortly before his Steve's arrival?  Stop me when you can define these remarks as fabrications.

3 hours ago, tondi said:

Yeah because our WR development has been off the hook since he left, right?  

Ted Ginn didn't get paid twice off of how well he played here right?  Kelvin Benjamin wasn't good until he got injured and had this mental breakdown after being traded?  There is truth though that WR development still isn't our calling card.  You can't argue though that we haven't had a receiver punching teammates since Steve left.

1 hour ago, hepcat said:

Michael Irvin was a cokehead on a stacked roster. Throw prime Smitty on those Cowboys teams and Aikman looks like Tom Brady

And he was abrasive to teammates just like Smitty, but it doesn't erase the fact that he was one of the best and hardest working WRs to play the game.  

Finally, stop acting like Steve Smith when somebody remembers not so great things about Steve Smith.

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I don't think there was anything malicious by Irvin. But After he realized what happened I think they started fugging with him because they know he is a sensitive dude. Irvin standing up, Reggie Bush "why you standing up" (lol) ... I think they are having fun with him because they probably think that is "good TV" or whatever. I'll stick to this theory unless Smitty sucker punches Irvin on live TV.  Then it's personal

If there really is something personal, I don't think it's Irvin. Those guys (Irvin, Deon etc...) are always clowning on that show. I remember another segment a while back where Irvin made fun of Smith's suit and Smith goes "I will kick your a$$" ... and Smitty didn't look like he was kidding. Smitty needs some snicker bars man :-)

Some of you may be too young to remember, but I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like Irvin was not a beast in his prime 

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8 minutes ago, LA_Panther said:

I don't think there was anything malicious by Irvin. But After he realized what happened I think they started fugging with him because they know he is a sensitive dude. Irvin standing up, Reggie Bush "why you standing up" (lol) ... I think they are having fun with him because they probably think that is "good TV" or whatever. I'll stick to this theory unless Smitty sucker punches Irvin on live TV.  Then it's personal

If there really is something personal, I don't think it's Irvin. Those guys (Irvin, Deon etc...) are always clowning on that show. I remember another segment a while back where Irvin made fun of Smith's suit and Smith goes "I will kick your a$$" ... and Smitty didn't look like he was kidding. Smitty needs some snicker bars man :-)

Some of you may be too young to remember, but I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like Irvin was not a beast in his prime 

I don't think there was anything malicious intended by Irvin either.   But he fugged up and literally the entire set knew it the moment he said it.  And looked to milk it. 

but there doesn't have to be malicious intent for 89 to mark you and come for you.  

Irvin was a beast in his time.  But 89 was right, he was a much better route runner and WR than Irvin. 

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