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Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

Benjamin had his faults here no doubt, but how much of his trade do you contribute to Cam? Cam stared him down and there was no doubt when KB was on the field where Cam was looking first. 

That's a valid argument and one that I can see go multiple ways.

Was KB Cam's favorite target or did Cam force the ball a lot to KB to keep him engaged.

Tough to say.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Really pissed you off there, didn't I? :)

Come on, dude. You gotta admit that was just bad.

Unlike yourself I'm not going to make a simple conversation personal even though I definitely could considering how much information you've given here over the years.

Stay classy Scot.

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1 minute ago, TheRed said:

Unlike yourself I'm not going to make a simple conversation personal even though I definitely could considering how much information you've given here over the years.

Stay classy Scot.

Last post: Makes an attempt at a swipe about politics...

Next post: "I'm not going to try and be personal"

All this coming from someone with a well known history of trying to throw a personal and political things into arguments when they aren't there...

Yeah :)

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Last post: Makes an attempt at a swipe about politics...

Next post: "I'm not going to try and be personal"

All this coming from someone with a well known history of trying to throw a personal and political things into arguments when they aren't there...

Yeah :)

Anyone who has read this board at all within the past 6 months has seen your daily rantings about Jerry Richardson. Those people can see you here now having a meltdown defending a former employee of that same man to the point you are lobbing torpedoes in any and every direction.

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Just now, TheRed said:

Anyone who has read this board at all within the past 6 months has seen your daily rantings about Jerry Richardson. Those people can see you here now having a meltdown defending a former employee of that same man to the point you are lobbing torpedoes in any and every direction.

Nah, but keep trying, dude :)

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Just now, stbugs said:

You do realize that we went 5-3 with KB and 6-3 without him, right? You do also know that without Olsen, Cam had 2 games over 300 yards passing and both were with KB. Cam’s passing stats were way better with KB than without him.

He never had another game over 260 yards without KB until Greg and CMC both had over 100 yards against NO in the playoffs.

Funny that you bash KB (I can’t stand him now) for being a DG pick and mention Butker, yet the key reasons we lost to NO in the playoffs were because of Gano and not having KB. Despise KB all you want but I’d rather have a guy with 18 TDs from Cam in 2.5 seasons on that route instead of Clay dropping an easy TD and I’d rather have saved $14M than have a kicker who makes the pro-Bowl but misses a key 20 yarder when it counts. KB’s a donkey dick to me now, but I still would have loved to have him in the SB and in the playoffs last year. Not now since Samuel looks solid and we got Moore, Smith and Wright.

Hurney made two decisions that cost us dearly in the playoff game, simple as that.

Is this serious? Look up the Panthers record with and without KB.

Yes, the reason we lost against New Orleans is because of Gano. Not because the Saints dropped 30+ on us for the 3rd straight time or because Funchess lost a ball in the lights that could have easily been got. Look up how Butker's season ended (in the playoffs) and get back to me.

KB had no affect on the Panthers losing that game and neither did Gano. Kelvin was a shitshow of a receiver for the reminder of the year in Buffalo and with him the Panthers only recorded one game where they had over 30 points, without him they had four.

I'll take Cam's MVP Benji-less season over that lazy ass wide out any day of the week.

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11 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Lol. In 2017, we were 5-3 with KB and 6-3 without and Cam’s stats were better with KB. Is it really that hard to understand? Who wants KB back? I would have wanted him in the SB and in the playoffs last year. Did you lookup who was our best weapon in the rematch with Denver? I’ll save you the effort, KB was 6-91 1 TD. You don’t think that would have been helpful. Clay let a ball go right through his arms and has 0 career TDs. You really would rather have had him miss the ball than a guy with 18 TDs from Cam? Also, Butker missed a 48 yard FG on a 4 play -2 yard drive. Gano missed a 25 yarder after a 15 play, 63 yard drive ending in Clay’s drop.

I don’t want him back now that we have WRs since Marty realized his mistake. I’d have taken him in a heartbeat in the SB instead of Cotchery and against NO instead of Clay, Shepard and Bersin.

23-3 without KB

19-22-1 with him

There's no argument here.

 

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17 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Lol. In 2017, we were 5-3 with KB and 6-3 without and Cam’s stats were better with KB. Is it really that hard to understand? Who wants KB back? I would have wanted him in the SB and in the playoffs last year. Did you lookup who was our best weapon in the rematch with Denver? I’ll save you the effort, KB was 6-91 1 TD. You don’t think that would have been helpful. Clay let a ball go right through his arms and has 0 career TDs. You really would rather have had him miss the ball than a guy with 18 TDs from Cam? Also, Butker missed a 48 yard FG on a 4 play -2 yard drive. Gano missed a 25 yarder after a 15 play, 63 yard drive ending in Clay’s drop.

I don’t want him back now that we have WRs since Marty realized his mistake. I’d have taken him in a heartbeat in the SB instead of Cotchery and against NO instead of Clay, Shepard and Bersin.

I went to bat in defense of KB so many times here.

But Cam won the MVP of the entire league without him. How can you ignore that?

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