Does Jackson have a higher ceiling than Bradberry?

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Generally the player with the superior athleticism technically has the higher ceiling. But athleticism alone has no bearing on whether that player can actually reach their ceiling.

And corner in the NFL takes way more than just athleticism to be successful.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

One thing I do hope we see is to get away from the whole RCB/LCB concept. If we don't, I fear our opponents will just move their WRs around to create favorable match ups. Bradberry on a speedy deep threat and Jackson on a big, physical WR doesn't favor us and I think it's what we'll see if we insist on keeping Bradberry and Jackson married to one side or the other.

I hate that approach with a passion.

After seeing what the Cardinals did to us in the playoffs, I don't know how anybody can advocate that strategy.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I hate that approach with a passion.

After seeing what the Cardinals did to us in the playoffs, I don't know how anybody can advocate that strategy.

I get it in zone heavy schemes where the two starting CBs are similar, but while we run a zone heavy scheme our CBs definitely aren't similar. Bradberry is a good sized CB with passable speed/quickness. He's a pretty typical zone CB in that regard. Jackson is a slight built CB with blazing speed and quickness. He's more of a typical off man coverage CB. They're pretty much polar opposites in terms of their strengths and weaknesses, at least on paper. If we leave them stranded on "their side" of the defense, teams are absolutely going to try to exploit that by moving their WRs around to get favorable match ups.

[pantherclaw]

I believe both can be very good for us.

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I get it in zone heavy schemes where the two starting CBs are similar, but while we run a zone heavy scheme our CBs definitely aren't similar. Bradberry is a good sized CB with passable speed/quickness. He's a pretty typical zone CB in that regard. Jackson is a slight built CB with blazing speed and quickness. He's more of a typical off man coverage CB. They're pretty much polar opposites in terms of their strengths and weaknesses, at least on paper. If we leave them stranded on "their side" of the defense, teams are absolutely going to try to exploit that by moving their WRs around to get favorable match ups.

The question then becomes will we adjust to counter that?

History suggests the answer is no.

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The question then becomes will we adjust to counter that?

History suggests the answer is no.

Yeah, that's my concern. We seem to do what we do, damn the torpedoes full speed ahead. The Giants really exploited this by moving OBJ around to avoid Norman in '15 nearly pulling off an insane comeback.

[PleaseCutStewart]

48 minutes ago, ecu88 said:

I just want CBs that prevent big plays and minimizes TDs of WRs. Interceptions would be amazing but if they can prevent big plays and TDs all year long, 0 interceptions will not bother me like it would for others on this board. 

Careful what you wish for. Rivera might read this comment and decide to play the corners 20 yards off opposing receivers instead of the current 10 yards

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, that's my concern. We seem to do what we do, damn the torpedoes full speed ahead. The Giants really exploited this by moving OBJ around to avoid Norman in '15 nearly pulling off an insane comeback.

Yeah. And it still annoys me that even in 2015, when we had our best year, coaching mistakes were allowing teams to come back in the second half on a regular basis.

How do you not see that?

[Manther]

38 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

And corner in the NFL takes way more than just athleticism to be successful.

I agree.  You have to have a nose for the ball and feel for the qb.  I believe Jackson showed that.  He is SOOO much better than Worley.  Searcy should be better than Coleman.  This years secondary, barring injuries, is going to be so much better than last years..just because of those two changes.    

[JARROD]

Yes,..

Jackson has the ability and the attitude.

Bradberry has attention to detail, seems technically proficient, but doesn't have the attitude, aggressiveness or the ability that Jackson does.

[Manther]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah. And it still annoys me that even in 2015, when we had our best year, coaching mistakes were allowing teams to come back in the second half on a regular basis.

How do you not see that?

Part of that was defense, but in my eye, a huge part was offense.  After we would build the lead, offense would switch to our 3 (runs) and out strategy.  You know, because punting eats up the clock.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, Manther said:

Part of that we defense, but in my eye, a huge part was offense.  After we would build the lead, offense would switch to our 3 (runs) and out strategy.  You know, because punting eats up the clock.

No argument there.

It always seemed like as long as we were winning, Rivera didn't feel the need to adjust much on either side of the ball. Second-half offense was pretty frequently atrocious, which left our second half defense gasping for air.

[csuncc1989]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I just hope the two of them can prove to be a legit starting CB tandem. One thing I do hope we see is to get away from the whole RCB/LCB concept. If we don't, I fear our opponents will just move their WRs around to create favorable match ups. Bradberry on a speedy deep threat and Jackson on a big, physical WR doesn't favor us and I think it's what we'll see if we insist on keeping Bradberry and Jackson married to one side or the other.

I havent noticed this before, you could label me a casual fan as far as scheme and tactics go. Is this Ron's  scheme as a whole or was it a product of wilks?

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, csuncc1989 said:

I havent noticed this before, you could label me a casual fan as far as scheme and tactics go. Is this Ron's  scheme as a whole or was it a product of wilks?

It's been pretty consistent during the Rivera era.