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I would like to talk about this Matt Kalil situation


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3 minutes ago, kepickle said:

yea my piont is we will have 9 million o f dead money going back into the avaible cap space & that help easy the Matt Kalil cutting penalty

My point is that we are not PAYING Oher anything.  In your first post, you said we were PAYING Oher.  That's incorrect.

All that is left is dead money and cap hits.  You do know that "dead money" is not a payment under contract to an NFL player, correct?  Its the residual effects of a past contract.

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3 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

My point is that we are not PAYING Oher anything.  In your first post, you said we were PAYING Oher.  That's incorrect.

All that is left is dead money and cap hits.  You do know that "dead money" is not a payment under contract to an NFL player, correct?  Its the residual effects of a past contract.

 

3 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

My point is that we are not PAYING Oher anything.  In your first post, you said we were PAYING Oher.  That's incorrect.

All that is left is dead money and cap hits.  You do know that "dead money" is not a payment under contract to an NFL player, correct?  Its the residual effects of a past contract.

Dead money

When a player is cut or traded, you’ll often hear the term “dead money.” That is the guaranteed money left on a player’s contract at the time he is let go. That money will count against a team’s cap that next year. If a player is cut after June 1, the dead money is split over the next two seasons.

Let’s use a real-life example. Mike Glennon is expected to be cut by the Bears this offseason. He still has $4.5 million in guarantees left on his deal, so if Chicago lets him go now, that money will be on their books in 2018, but the remainder of his $16 million cap hit will not. Therefore, the Bears would save $11.5 million against the 2018 cap by cuttinhttps://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/02/nfl-offseason-salary-cap-primer-glossary-dead-money-contracts-franchise-tagg him.

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18 minutes ago, kepickle said:

 

Dead money

When a player is cut or traded, you’ll often hear the term “dead money.” That is the guaranteed money left on a player’s contract at the time he is let go. That money will count against a team’s cap that next year. If a player is cut after June 1, the dead money is split over the next two seasons.

Let’s use a real-life example. Mike Glennon is expected to be cut by the Bears this offseason. He still has $4.5 million in guarantees left on his deal, so if Chicago lets him go now, that money will be on their books in 2018, but the remainder of his $16 million cap hit will not. Therefore, the Bears would save $11.5 million against the 2018 cap by cuttinhttps://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/02/nfl-offseason-salary-cap-primer-glossary-dead-money-contracts-franchise-tagg him.

What point are you trying to make? We are all aware of what dead money is. And how it’s split. Where are we getting 9M from?

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55 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

One other thing relevant to the topic...

There's no way to know how much influence Richardson had in the signing of Kalil or the terms of his contract. With no evidence either way, the general assumption would be that he didn't.

It is worth remembering though, what Richardson did issue a mandate before the 2016 offseason. This fact has been repeatedly confirmed by Bill Voth.

Gettleman was reportedly told by Richardson to "spend money" and a lot of it. This would have gone against Gettleman's normal penny-pinching nature, but Richardson was the boss.

How much that played into the Kalil contract? Who can say?  You could, however, make a pretty good argument that was a harbinger of things to come.

"Spend money" and spending it on the ridiculous contract to Matt Kalil are two different things though.

Anyways in my personal opinion its Hurney-1.0 < Gettleman < Hurney-2.0 

Since Gettleman is with the Giants now hopefully we can see who really is the better GM of the two the next couple of seasons. 

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25 minutes ago, kepickle said:

 

Dead money

When a player is cut or traded, you’ll often hear the term “dead money.” That is the guaranteed money left on a player’s contract at the time he is let go. That money will count against a team’s cap that next year. If a player is cut after June 1, the dead money is split over the next two seasons.

Let’s use a real-life example. Mike Glennon is expected to be cut by the Bears this offseason. He still has $4.5 million in guarantees left on his deal, so if Chicago lets him go now, that money will be on their books in 2018, but the remainder of his $16 million cap hit will not. Therefore, the Bears would save $11.5 million against the 2018 cap by cuttinhttps://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/02/nfl-offseason-salary-cap-primer-glossary-dead-money-contracts-franchise-tagg him.

I dont think you have that correct. Post June 1 cuts only apply this years money to current season and all future pro rated money goes on the following.

Its Sept.....post June 1.

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8 hours ago, KB_fan said:

Beyond the problem of Matt, his injuries, his poor play and his massive contract is how this nightmare has really tarnished fans' appreciation of Ryan Kalil.  I know at least for me the name Kalil has now become a bad word, and that's a shame. Ryan deserves lots of respect and appreciation. But right now my Kalil brother love is at an all-time low.

the double Kalil bone job....

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1 hour ago, kepickle said:

 

Dead money

When a player is cut or traded, you’ll often hear the term “dead money.” That is the guaranteed money left on a player’s contract at the time he is let go. That money will count against a team’s cap that next year. If a player is cut after June 1, the dead money is split over the next two seasons.

Let’s use a real-life example. Mike Glennon is expected to be cut by the Bears this offseason. He still has $4.5 million in guarantees left on his deal, so if Chicago lets him go now, that money will be on their books in 2018, but the remainder of his $16 million cap hit will not. Therefore, the Bears would save $11.5 million against the 2018 cap by cuttinhttps://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/02/nfl-offseason-salary-cap-primer-glossary-dead-money-contracts-franchise-tagg him.

Yes, when he was cut/retired, they paid him IMMEDIATELY every dime that they owed him.

THEN that payment was counted as "dead money" over the next two season (for a post-June 1 cut).

In other words, as of now, they are paying him NOTHING.  He has ALREADY BEEN PAID.  The only thing left is the residual effect of the "dead money" on the cap.

Do you understand yet?

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8 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

If not for Luke, TD wouldn’t be on this team still.

Same. He’s so physically and mentally weak. He’ll ride out this contract and call it a career. 

if I had some paying me millions to hang out with the team and watch the games, I would to.... 

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