Preseason Game 4 - Who made the team?

[TheSpecialJuan]

Panthers Roster Battles: Who Won & Who Lost in Preseason Week 4?

 

[TheSpecialJuan]

Just now, TheSpecialJuan said:

Panthers Roster Battles: Who Won & Who Lost in Preseason Week 4?

 

Taylor Heinicke vs. Garrett Gilbert

While Gilbert entered the preseason as the presumed backup, at some point over the past three weeks, the only other quarterback on the roster who had attempted an NFL pass leapfrogged him – that was hinted at when Cam Newton went down last week for four plays and Heinicke was first off the bench – and it was likely confirmed tonight as Heinicke started slowly, only completing one of his first five attempts, but finished strong with a 6-for-7 second drive that ended in a Mose Frazier touchdown. Gilbert, albeit with different wide receivers than Heinicke during his time on the field, finished with only 23 yards passing and a lost fumble in a quarter of work.

While Heinicke may be in the lead, the most impressive quarterback on the field in Pittsburgh wore black and yellow – Josh Dobbs, who has been the subject of trade rumors this week, put on a show, finishing with 151 yards passing as he deftly avoided rushers and created space for his receivers – he threw for one score and rushed for another in a likely audition for a team other than the Steelers – now the question is whether or not the Panthers will pull the trigger on a trade.

“It’s tough when you’re not playing with everybody, but we knew that going in [that] it was going to be tough – we’ll take a look at that and we will evaluate,” said Ron Rivera after the game. “It’s all a part of the evaluation process; it’s a tough situation but we’ve got to make our decision based on how we feel about things.”

Heinicke finished the preseason 24-of-36 for 323 yards, two touchdowns (and one rushing) and an interception for a quarterback rating of 101.97.

Winner: Heinicke

[TheSpecialJuan]

Cameron Artis-Payne vs. Kenjon Barner

While there is a real possibility that the team will keep four running backs, if they decide to keep three, Cameron Artis-Payne likely had the advantage after playing the past three years under Ron Rivera; however, Kenjon Barner had five rushes for 72 yards in the Week 2 win over the Dolphins. With CAP getting the start tonight, he made the most of his opportunity, gobbling up 35 yards on only five carries and looking the part of a quality running back playing against a second-string defense – his jump cut has always been impressive and tonight was no exception. However, Barner showed his value on special teams with a 34-yard return, a key part of his game.

“The biggest thing for Cameron is that he took advantages of the opportunities he’s got,” said Rivera about Artis-Payne. “He’s done some really good things and that’s all a part of the evaluation process for us.”

They’ll also be evaluating Barner, who felt like he has done enough this preseason to merit consideration, but doesn’t let himself get stressed about things that are out of his control – he’ll just be going about his daily activities over the next few days as the team begins to make it’s cuts.

“I feel like I showed my ability to catch the ball out of the backfield, stand in there and block and make some hard, tough runs,” Barner said. “I definitely feel like I put some tape out there, so at the end of the day, I’m going to let the chips fall where they may.”

“You can’t worry yourself over things you have no control over – the only thing I had control over was tonight.”

Winner: Artis-Payne, by default

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[jtm]

7 hours ago, KB_fan said:

Hood injured badly on opening K/O return. Assume it's season ending and he'll land on IR.

I think CAP and Barner both will make 53.  Bonnafon to PS 

No way CAP, Barner, and Byrd make the team. I think team keeps 3 RB and 6 WRs and Barner is the odd man out. If team keeps 4 RB and 5 WR, Byrd is out and Barner makes the team. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

8 hours ago, The Lone Panther said:

Barner had one decent return which came in the 4th against nobodies. Byrd has already proven he can take it to the house.  Byrd over Barner. 

Barner has probably more actual NFL film than Byrd does.  If I remember correctly Barner had a good return against us last year.   Barner's benefit is he is a better back up to CMC while we have Samuel and Smitty to be our speed.   

[Paintballr]

7 hours ago, stratopanther said:

He scored a td on 20% of his touches. He also had a gorgeous kick return td. 

The dude only has like 10 catches in 8 games. That’s like saying if a RB gets one carry and it’s a 70 yard run “we should start that running back, his avg carry is 70 yards!”

[mrknowitall]

8 hours ago, Snake said:

Quite true but Barner gives you a poor man's CMC and plays STs. 

CAP plays special teams as well, he just doesn't return kicks.

[Snake]

9 hours ago, Eazy-E said:

May just be me, but I don't like the idea of using our past 2 first round picks on special teams. Injury waiting to happen.

Outside of PR I really doubt Moore gets much time. Then my next question is do you sit Moore on game day for Byrd? 

[Snake]

8 hours ago, stratopanther said:

He scored a td on 20% of his touches. He also had a gorgeous kick return td. 

Exactly but he wasn't good enough. 

[Snake]

28 minutes ago, mrknowitall said:

CAP plays special teams as well, he just doesn't return kicks.

But he doesn't return kicks... 

[Bronn]

Offense (26-1):

QB:
Cam
Heinicke

RB:
Anderson
McCaffrey
Artis-Payne
Barner (Until TD comes back)

FB:
Armah

WR:
Funchess
Smith
Moore
Wright
Samuel
Byrd

TE:
Olsen
Thomas
Baylis (Until TD comes back, or we snag another one off the waiver wire)

T:
Kalil
Williams
Moton
Clausell

G:
Turner
Van Roten
Sirles
Mahon

C:
Kalil
Larsen

Defense (24+1):

DE:
Pep
Addison
Horton
Obada
Cox
Haynes

DT:
Short
Poe
Butler
Love

LB:
Kuechly
(Davis) doesn't count for the first 4
Thompson
Mayo
Norris
Carter

CB:
Bradberry
Jackson
Munnerlyn
Seymour
Elder
Doss

S:
Adams
Searcy
Gaulden

Special Teams (3):
Gano
Palardy
Jansen

Practice Squad:
QB - Gilbert
WR - Frazier
TE - Vander Laan
T - Eatmon
C- Friend
DT - Norton
DE - Hall
CB – Carter
S – Southward
S – Cox

[Captroop]

7 minutes ago, Bronn said:

DE:
Pep
Addison
Horton
Obada
Cox
Haynes 

Great analysis. And this is the line-up I'd love to see at DE. But I feel like Hall gets the spot over Obada, because we can stash Obada for a year. But that guy made so much noise last night! I really want to see him on the 53-man roster this year.

[Bronn]

1 minute ago, Captroop said:

Great analysis. And this is the line-up I'd love to see at DE. But I feel like Hall gets the spot over Obada, because we can stash Obada for a year. But that guy made so much noise last night! I really want to see him on the 53-man roster this year.

If we PS him, another team can sign him. I don't think he stays on the PS if we put him there.

[Icege]

For those disappointed in Hall, what was expected in the second year of a 4th rounder who spent his rookie season on the IR?

Trying to understand the expectations or if it's just scorned ex-girlfriend behavior.