Khalil Mack anyone?

[archer4364]

I'm no NFL cap expert... but we'd have to dump a lot of salary to get him right? Doesn't seem feasible. If we could get him for just picks I would at least explore it though. Our championship window is now in my opinion. Newton/Kuechly/Mack is a deadly core. 

[Proudiddy]

I'd definitely think it over...  if we're picking in the bottom fourth of the first each year, we really wouldn't miss those picks if we had Mack for them.  We will need a pass rusher to take the helm once Pep retires, and you likely aren't going to find a player of his caliber in the back of the first.  He is a beast.

[RumHam]

Why in the actual fug does this deserve a thread?

[beastson]

Isn't Mack a 3-4 OLB?

[RumHam]

2 hours ago, NAS said:

Raiders asking for two first round picks to trade him.  Would you do it if you’re the Panthers?. With Peppers retiring soon, we will definitely need to replace him. 

Seriously do you watch this team or just want attention? Why would we send TWO fuging FIRSTS FOR A POSITION OF STRENGTH AND THE FACT THAT WE COULDN'T AFFORD HIM? PEPPERS DOESN'T PLAY THE SAME DAMN POSITION. 

[NAS]

1 minute ago, RumHam said:

Seriously do you watch this team or just want attention? Why would we send TWO fuging FIRSTS FOR A POSITION OF STRENGTH AND THE FACT THAT WE COULDN'T AFFORD HIM? PEPPERS DOESN'T PLAY THE SAME DAMN POSITION. 

Calm your ass down.  I am not advocating giving up two firsts, but I would hope we're at least exploring the trade option of  something less.  If you don't like the topic, just ignore it, or do YOU want the attention?

And Mack is  Defensive End, how is that not the same position as Peppers?  

[Navy_football]

44 minutes ago, Toomers said:

So where does the cap space come from to fit him in at 14M THIS YEAR. Then 20+M the next 4-5. There are actual rules we, and every team has to follow. We are already staring at a huge cap hit just to get rid of Kalil. Who are the players that are leaving because we can’t pay them? That will close a window quickly.

And this is why I baulk. It's not necessarily the picks, but would he just be a one year rental - for two, first round picks? If both Kalils agreed to retire after this season, then I would definitely consider. 

[RumHam]

Just now, NAS said:

Calm your ass down.  I am not advocating giving up two firsts, but I would hope we're at least exploring the trade option of  something less.  If you don't like the topic, just ignore it, or do YOU want the attention?

And Mack is  Defensive End, how is that not the same position as Peppers?  

There is one option, they want two firsts. There is no exploration. He's not a DE either, he's an 3-4 OLB for a scheme that doesn't fit ours.

[NAS]

4 minutes ago, beastson said:

Isn't Mack a 3-4 OLB?

He played both OLB and DE with Raiders and was selected as an All Pro in both positions.  Another reason why you can't miss with him.

[RumHam]

1 minute ago, NAS said:

Calm your ass down.  I am not advocating giving up two firsts, but I would hope we're at least exploring the trade option of  something less.  If you don't like the topic, just ignore it, or do YOU want the attention?

And Mack is  Defensive End, how is that not the same position as Peppers?  

Actually, let's send them Cam and Luke. Allows us to free up the cap space, we get our pass rusher, and we can have Gilbert lead us to the promise land. While we're at it, throw in CMC, maybe they'll send us Cooper. I MEAN WHY NOT, IT CERTAINLY DESERVES A THREAD TO DISCUSS

[RumHam]

Just now, NAS said:

He played both OLB and DE with Raiders and was selected as an All Pro in both positions.  Another reason why you can't miss with him.

Well there's always Madden

[RumHam]

Actually, we can do all that and sign KAEPERNECK

[RumHam]

Nah we should see what Green Bay would take for Aaron Rodgers

[NAS]

3 minutes ago, stbugs said:

There are an abundance of much, much cheaper 4-3 DEs in this year’s draft. I’d rather use the 2020 first to jump up in 2019’s draft to get a young stud who doesn’t cost close to $20M per year.

Yes, bust potential but again if we draft (I definitely want a DE in the 1st) a DE in the first, assuming we only move up to 11th max, we would be looking at a cap cost of $20-25 million for 5 years instead of $100 million for 5 years.

With Cam’s re-up and Daryl and Devin, etc. we could have a rookie DE (and a good one) and a lot of other pieces or Mack. Sorry but he’s not that good. He’s been awesome for years and the Raiders mediocre except one great year for Carr. Even Von Miller wasn’t a SB champ without a lot of other great D players around him.

I can respect a well expressed argument, instead of the idiotic RumHam posts.  Cheers!