Will DJ Moore be active week one?

[Eazy-E]

2 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

Would you rather throw a screen pass to him, Devin Funchess, or Smith? He will play and there will be scripted plays to get him the ball. 

Trust me there are a lot of things with this team I rather do / have happen but Ron and Hurney have their own plans.

[Butterflyj30]

I hope he is active!! We can't loose against Dallas on National TV

[Roebling]

On 8/26/2018 at 1:07 PM, Mr. Scot said:

Funchess, Wright and Samuel should absolutely be active.

That leaves one spot you can fill with Moore, Torrey Smith...maybe Damiere Byrd but I'd call that a long shot (granted he has special teams value).

Dude, you always have at least 4 receivers. 

We will enter the game with all 5 of those. Don't be ridiculous. 

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Roebling said:

Dude, you always have at least 4 receivers. 

We will enter the game with all 5 of those. Don't be ridiculous. 

It's very possible. I don't think it's guaranteed.

A lot of the discussion revolves around Torrey Smith, who I believe the team will keep but probably shouldn't.

[KB_fan]

17 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

lot of the discussion revolves around Torrey Smith, who I believe the team will keep but probably shouldn't.

I'm so surprised by the negativity towards Smith on here. I know he's not looked great in the preseason games. But it seems he brings so much to the team. (Like when we had Peanut here in 2015... Ok Torrey's not quite on that level in production, but in terms of leadership, absolutely.)

But let's wait to see what he does when games matter, and hopefully Moton is starting at LT meaning Cam has some time to throw deep.

I am all aboard in wanting to keep Byrd. And if keeping Smith is the reason Byrd gets cut, I'll understand the anger, and share it. But there really are viable ways to keep Byrd and Smith, even with 11 OL guys. The obvious way is to keep only 2 TE and start Manhertz on the PUP.

I view Smith as great depth, a wonderful guy to have on the roster for big games late in the season. I think he opens up the offense but being a deep threat.

Is keeping Smith over CAP (or Barner) a problem?

Is keeping Smith over Manhertz a problem?

Is keeping Smith over Seymour a problem? 

These are the guys I think most threatened by a decision to keep 6 WR. I'd rather have Smith than any of them.

[LinvilleGorge]

I don't think it's as much negativity toward Smith as it is positivity toward the young guys on the roster with more upside who need an opportunity. We all know Ron's tendencies to stick with vets even when you get guys are proving they deserve an opportunity. My concern with Smith on the roster is that those opportunities won't come.

[KB_fan]

13 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

My concern with Smith on the roster is that those opportunities won't come.

Fair enough.

Yet Samuel and Moore ARE being given opportunities in preseason. Lead in targets, both getting a good chunk of targets in the earlier part of games. Coaches aren't blind. The way Samuel is playing, unless he's making some dumb mistakes we don't see or hear, he'll play. Moore maybe a little less early on. But that's not a bad thing to give a rookie some time to settle in.

Do remember, this is Norv's offense. Ron still sometimes calls Norv "coach". I think what Norv wants, Norv will get.  If this were still Shula at OC I'd be more worried.

[CRA]

basically we have 1 WR that has earned the right to be a starting WR.  Fun Fun. 

Everyone else is still in a battle and that battle will be decided in the regular season.   So Moore will 100% be active. 

I think Smith has a legit place in our gameplan week 1.  My only worry is Rivera treats him as a starting WR.  He hasn't earned the rep load IMO over our other talent IMO.  Smith can go vertical as good as the young guns but he doesn't offer the upside on other routes IMO they do

[CRA]

27 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

I'm so surprised by the negativity towards Smith on here. I know he's not looked great in the preseason games. But it seems he brings so much to the team. (Like when we had Peanut here in 2015... Ok Torrey's not quite on that level in production, but in terms of leadership, absolutely.)

 

Not to nitpick and not knocking Smith...

but no, Smith isn't on par with a Peanut Tillman in terms of leadership on a roster.   Peanut was a 12 year vet, pro bowler, all pro, man of the year, etc. 

[Mr. Scot]

45 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't think it's as much negativity toward Smith as it is positivity toward the young guys on the roster with more upside who need an opportunity. We all know Ron's tendencies to stick with vets even when you get guys are proving they deserve an opportunity. My concern with Smith on the roster is that those opportunities won't come.

Correct.

That's not really Smith's fault, but that fact doesn't change the potential pitfalls.

I'm definitely not dead set against Smith being on the team. I do question whether he should be a starter.

[KB_fan]

25 minutes ago, CRA said:

Not to nitpick and not knocking Smith...

but no, Smith isn't on par with a Peanut Tillman in terms of leadership on a roster.   Peanut was a 12 year vet, pro bowler, all pro, man of the year, etc. 

True. But Torrey has two rings, has been a WPMOY nominee, and is an incredible leader when it comes to social justice / community outreach, and supposedly is an excellent mentor for the young guys.

Frankly with his high profile social justice comments (on Twitter, etc), I'm still quite shocked we brought him in, especially while JR was owner. I think a guy like this is gold in the locker room in the current political climate. A safety valve as it were.

No, you don't keep him on the 53 just for this at the expense of a better player. But if he can be an important role player on our offense AND provide that kind of locker room leadership? Hell yeah, I want him on my team.

[Mr. Scot]

To be fair, while Richardson was still technically the owner at the time Smith was brought in, he was pretty well on his way to being ushered out the door.

If he'd still had full power, who knows?

[LinvilleGorge]

I hadn't really given this idea much of a chance, but based on Moore's disappearing act last night against scrubs... oh wee mayne.

I still think he'll be active and we'll have a handful of plays for him, but we'll see. 

[Pup McBarky]

21 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I hadn't really given this idea much of a chance, but based on Moore's disappearing act last night against scrubs... oh wee mayne.

I still think he'll be active and we'll have a handful of plays for him, but we'll see. 

A huge part of me thinks and hopes Norv is limiting his touches to surprise opponents in the first couple of games. But it could be he just needs more work.