Cam completed 65% of his passes tonight

[top dawg]

3 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

The Big 10 isnt small program.

The Turtles still suck though. 

I was going to tell @LinvilleGorge the same thing. I was also going to say that Samuel may "seem greatly improved" depending upon perspective, but we really didn't get to see him but for a hot minute last season. He arguably always had that in him. @Saca312 has been touting him all summer. I've cautioned people to not overlook him or forget about him as well. I've also cautioned people about Funchess (since forever).

All I can say is that I like what I've seen. The flashes with Samuel were there even if but a little bit last season. Funchess flashed his rookie season and has gradually improved over his time here (except for the year when the entire offense seemed to take a step back), and Moore flashed enough during the first preseason game that we know there's something to him too. 

We'd be crazy not to try and keep this trio together. It's only going to get better. It's just going to take some time.

[top dawg]

16 minutes ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

Imagine an alternate universe where Mike Shula was never Cam's offensive coordinator

Sometimes things happen for a reason. It hasn't been all bad. Fiddle with that timeline, and who knows what would've happened.

Perhaps everything comes together this season with fresh blood and tweaked approaches from the top down.

[Silent Majority]

5 hours ago, saX man said:

8th year, I'm going to sound like a glokinspiel but stats ain't got not no hot sauce.  

If glokinspeil is synonymous for nails on a fuging chalkboard then...yeah.

[Silent Majority]

1 hour ago, Jackofalltrades said:

Not sure it was “waisted” as we did make it to the Super Bowl and dominate the NFCS, but it’s still disappointing. 

Competent OC and this franchise would have had a ring.

[Castavar]

It helps when you don't have a 300 lb "WR" and an actual OC that can design plays to make WRs get open. People really underestimate what a good OC can do. Norv is also holding his WRs to a higher standard while also coaching them up. God, we wasted so many Cam prime years with Shula.

All those times you defended Shula in the past, I hope this finally open your eyes of how a good OC can help a QB with his completion %.

[panthers55]

7 minutes ago, Castavar said:

It helps when you don't have a 300 lb "WR" and an actual OC that can design plays to make WRs get open. People really underestimate what a good OC can do. Norv is also holding his WRs to a higher standard while also coaching them up. God, we wasted so many Cam prime years with Shula.

All those times you defended Shula in the past, I hope this finally open your eyes of how a good OC can help a QB with his completion %.

If the Shula comment was about me I did defend him like I defend our players and coaches. Like I will defend Norv and Washington, etc. It doesn't mean I am blind to their weaknesses or think they are awesome. Note that I haven't defended Shula this year or in this post as he is gone and no.longer germaine to our team. But I have watched football for 50 years and studied it for 30. I know what a good OC can do. Likely more than you. So spare me the disparagement. I told you what Norv would bring to the table and was right again. It isn't the play calling that has changed, it is Norv's and Scott's work to demand perfection from everyone on the offense and especially Cam that has made the difference. Add we have the best personnel on offense we may have ever had and that is the difference. Norv has benefitted greatly from having a great setup to begin with and it shows. If

[Castavar]

6 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

If the Shula comment was about me I did defend him like I defend our players and coaches. Like I will defend Norv and Washington, etc. It doesn't mean I am blind to their weaknesses or think they are awesome. Note that I haven't defended Shula this year or in this post as he is gone and no.longer germaine to our team. But I have watched football for 50 years and studied it for 30. I know what a good OC can do. Likely more than you. So spare me the disparagement. I told you what Norv would bring to the table and was right again. It isn't the play calling that has changed, it is Norv's and Scott's work to demand perfection from everyone on the offense and especially Cam that has made the difference. Add we have the best personnel on offense we may have ever had and that is the difference. Norv has benefitted greatly from having a great setup to begin with and it shows. If

lol

[Snake]

6 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

The Big 10 isnt small program.

It's not the SEC and that's the only conference that will give you somewhat of the speed of the NFL. Like I said small. 

[Woodie]

8 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Funchess stood out tonight. He actually played up to his size.

I really like Wright. He just seems like a savvy vet who may not do anything spectacular but he's going to be in the right place at the right time.

Samuel seems greatly improved. It seems like he's settling in as a WR and playing up to his speed measurables.

I'm curious what we have planned for Moore. Reports out of camp were pretty glowing and he looked good in the first week of preseason. I kind of feel like we've been intentionally down playing him since then. We'll see.

I agree with everything here, all the way down to the idea that the team has been downplaying Moore.  I don't think they are intentionally not using him.  But I do believe they have a specific plan on what they want to do with him, but aren't opening up the offense enough to run those plays yet.  

I had been thinking there is a very good chance that Byrd will get cut since we have had so many injuries on the OL and we'll need to keep Williams on the active roster through final cuts before we can IR him. But the deeper we get into the preseason, it looks like Byrd is clearly the quickest and most dynamic returner we have.  I think we do have some other guys that would be fine, but Byrd just seems much more explosive and comfortable back there than anyone else.  It seems like any time he touches the ball that he could be gone.  So, my thinking now is that maybe we need to keep him around for that alone.

But the big question mark at WR is Smith.  I think he is still a good deep guy, but with Samuel emerging, I'm not sure how many balls he will get.  Right now, I think his biggest value is in the locker room and as a vet presence.  However, Wright can also give us that, so it might come down to Byrd and Smith, and that's where Byrd's return skills could make the difference.

[rippadonn]

7 hours ago, Sub Zero said:

I agree with you about Moore.. I think they are hiding the his part of the playbook while giving curtis some shine... Who doesn't play next week will be telling... If Moore sits early he is definitely a bigger part of the offense they aren't showing..

Not being the tallest guy it would help him if he located and attacked the ball. Maybe I missed that but I haven't seen IT yet. When he learns to turn up his aggression level a bit more he'll be more than advertised. He can go to the Panther archive and watch #87 and #89 for what the difference is.

[Woodie]

3 hours ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

Imagine an alternate universe where Mike Shula was never Cam's offensive coordinator

I think Ron always wanted Norv as his OC.  Timing didn't work, and for whatever reason, Norv went elsewhere.  I honestly believe that Ron kept Shula around because he was waiting on Norv to become available again.  So, when Norv left Minnesota, it freed Ron to make the switch.  

[bobsfoodbasics]

1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

If the Shula comment was about me I did defend him like I defend our players and coaches. Like I will defend Norv and Washington, etc. It doesn't mean I am blind to their weaknesses or think they are awesome. Note that I haven't defended Shula this year or in this post as he is gone and no.longer germaine to our team. But I have watched football for 50 years and studied it for 30. I know what a good OC can do. Likely more than you. So spare me the disparagement. I told you what Norv would bring to the table and was right again. It isn't the play calling that has changed, it is Norv's and Scott's work to demand perfection from everyone on the offense and especially Cam that has made the difference. Add we have the best personnel on offense we may have ever had and that is the difference. Norv has benefitted greatly from having a great setup to begin with and it shows. If

please tell me this is a copy pasta hahahaha

[Ace_Aladdin]

10 minutes ago, Woodie said:

I think Ron always wanted Norv as his OC.  Timing didn't work, and for whatever reason, Norv went elsewhere.  I honestly believe that Ron kept Shula around because he was waiting on Norv to become available again.  So, when Norv left Minnesota, it freed Ron to make the switch.  

They are Rivera haters nothing will please them.

[Ace_Aladdin]

1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

If the Shula comment was about me I did defend him like I defend our players and coaches. Like I will defend Norv and Washington, etc. It doesn't mean I am blind to their weaknesses or think they are awesome. Note that I haven't defended Shula this year or in this post as he is gone and no.longer germaine to our team. But I have watched football for 50 years and studied it for 30. I know what a good OC can do. Likely more than you. So spare me the disparagement. I told you what Norv would bring to the table and was right again. It isn't the play calling that has changed, it is Norv's and Scott's work to demand perfection from everyone on the offense and especially Cam that has made the difference. Add we have the best personnel on offense we may have ever had and that is the difference. Norv has benefitted greatly from having a great setup to begin with and it shows. If

It’s a combination of perfectionist and scheme you are obviously blind if you didn’t notice in the Preaseason games lol!

Traditional run plays > read option