REPORT: DJ Moore in trouble with the law

[TheCasillas]

11 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

There are still people out at that time of night (obviously he was) but because of the time of night, you're less likely to expect to see them.

Thinking there's nobody around reduces the amount of "alert", and as a result causes a fair share of accidents.

There's no defending this. It was stupid, moronic even, and yes it could have gotten himself or somebody else killed.

Technically there is a way of defending this to the legal system. Since there was no harm, injury, damage and he did not create or contribute to any event to create an act of emergency, he will not have to suffer the max penalty of this.

Which is most likely the lawyer will advise him to take.

What you said in bold, is an assumption. Which means there is no clear line of factual evidence that could support it.

Bottom line is, he is 21 years old, and was joy riding in his car. He is a kid, enjoying his vehicle. He got caught. You slap him on the wrist and tell him what he did wrong. If he does it again, then let's chat about it being stupid.

What cracks me up about your remarks is that you are father, and if anyone would understand kids being kids it should be you.

[dpm0409]

6 hours ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

Let's remember it was a work zone at 2 A.M. I'm not too sure down south but I know up North we don't have too many highway workers working on the highways at 2 in the morning.

While I fall somewhere in the middle of the spectrum of whether this is a big deal or not, I will say this:  In the middle of the summer (regardless of north or south) there is a TON of road work that goes on at night.

The main reason is quite obvious: During the day/rush hour, you sometimes can't shut down roads/lanes and reasonably not expect to cause huge delays for people trying to get to and from work.  Thus, there are lots of crews that work in the middle of the night, especially on larger interstate projects....

[Davidson Deac II]

2 hours ago, Panthers8969 said:

Obviously the faster you’re going the less reaction time you have. That doesn’t really change anything though. If you’re going 80 or 110 and someone swerved into your lane you’re going too fast to do anything about it either way. 80 is a deadly speed just as much as 110 and the person driving with their head up their ass would be at fault not the person speeding on a highway. If you want to be able to react to everything perfectly in a split second I suggest staying off the highway and never going over 45 mph

A crash at 80 has a chance of being deadly.  A crash at a 110 has a greater chance of being deadly.  That is physics 101.

https://www.automotive-fleet.com/driver-care/239354/driver-care-how-speeding-affects-accident-impact

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A study presented at the University of California at Berkeley last year found that for every 1 percent increase in speed, a driver’s chance of an accident increases by 2 percent, the chance of serious injury increases by 3 percent, and the chance of a fatality increases by about 4 percent. 

Going faster than the surrounding traffic has even worse consequences, the same study found:  driving at 80 miles per hour on a road where traffic is moving at 70 increases your chances of a crash by 31 percent, a crash with an injury by 49 percent, and a fatality by 71 percent.

If a driver can't stay within reasonable proximity of the speed limit, then he or she should lose their license, and receive other punishments as dictated by the law.  In fact, that is what happens.      

 

Edited to add Jarrod beat me to it.  

Don't get me wrong, I don't think he should be thrown in prison or anything like that.  But he should lose his license, and be punished.  And no one should take the "boys will be boys" attitude.  That is an excuse for to much stupid behavior in people.

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Technically there is a way of defending this to the legal system. Since there was no harm, injury, damage and he did not create or contribute to any event to create an act of emergency, he will not have to suffer the max penalty of this.

Which is most likely the lawyer will advise him to take.

What you said in bold, is an assumption. Which means there is no clear line of factual evidence that could support it.

Bottom line is, he is 21 years old, and was joy riding in his car. He is a kid, enjoying his vehicle. He got caught. You slap him on the wrist and tell him what he did wrong. If he does it again, then let's chat about it being stupid.

What cracks me up about your remarks is that you are father, and if anyone would understand kids being kids it should be you.

Sneaking out to go to a party is "kids being kids".

When you do something that can get somebody killed, "kids being kids" isn't a valid defense.

And Moore is definitely old enough to understand that he shouldn't have been doing this.

[Panthers8969]

6 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

A crash at 80 has a chance of being deadly.  A crash at a 110 has a greater chance of being deadly.  That is physics 101.

https://www.automotive-fleet.com/driver-care/239354/driver-care-how-speeding-affects-accident-impact

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Really that’s physics 101? News flash buddy it’s not. I can tell you’ve never taken a physics class in your life so stop bringing physics up. Go take a physics class and tell me at what point the professor says “ok class as you all know a car crash involving a car going 80mph has a 72% of resulting in a fatality, but a car going 110 has an 80% chance of resulting in a fatality.” Both crashes have a high chance of killing someone. Stop trying to patronize me

[Moorgan]

39 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

There are still people out at that time of night (obviously he was) but because of the time of night, you're less likely to expect to see them.

Thinking there's nobody around reduces the amount of "alert", and as a result causes a fair share of accidents.

There's no defending this. It was stupid, moronic even, and yes it could have gotten himself or somebody else killed.

The time of night on a highway is a mitigator. The OP I quoted (aside from the shooting comment nonsense) was implying that it was a crowded highway and DJ was a mad man in and out of traffic. That is hyperbole. I acknowledged that it was reckless and dangerous. And I'm not defending this. I'm saying the hystrionics are unwarranted.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Moorgan said:

The time of night on a highway is a mitigator. The OP I quoted (aside from the shooting comment nonsense) was implying that it was a crowded highway and DJ was a mad man in and out of traffic. That is hyperbole. I acknowledged that it was reckless and dangerous. And I'm not defending this. I'm saying the hystrionics are unwarranted.

Not a crowded highway, but still a work zone. And that's where he really screwed up.

I imagine he'll lose his driver's license at the very least. Whether he gets deeper than that might depend on whether or not he gets a judge who decides to make an example of him for his being a public figure and doing something so stupid.

(that's a real possibility)

[TheCasillas]

20 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Sneaking out to go to a party is "kids being kids".

When you do something that can get somebody killed, "kids being kids" isn't a valid defense.

And Moore is definitely old enough to understand that he shouldn't have been doing this.

I'd say underage drinking is far more dangerous than a speeder. But hey we have different opinions. 

(In bold) I'll disagree with you there, giving a kid millions of dollars creates a different mindset. My assumption, no evidence.

[PantherFanInPhilly]

Good news guys, this is all one big misunderstanding.  It wasn't DJ Moore that was speeding.  It was our other rookie WR, DJ Ward.  Phewww! 

[SmokinwithWilly]

I'll offer a different take on it. Several years ago I was brushed by a car mirror while working on the side of the road but not in the roadway.  The mirror hit my shirt/skin at about shoulder height and thankfully didn't catch and yank me under the car. It was a 45 mph zone, cones up, clearly marked.  I don't know if the driver was speeding or not. I do know I was probably one of the luckiest guys on the road that day.  I don't speed in work zones anymore. I dont speed period. Being in a work zone on/by a roadway is a scary thing when you see fools texting, weaving, doing 80, etc. Just because you can't see someone working doesn't mean they aren't there.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I'll offer a different take on it. Several years ago I was brushed by a car mirror while working on the side of the road but not in the roadway.  The mirror hit my shirt/skin at about shoulder height and thankfully didn't catch and yank me under the car. It was a 45 mph zone, cones up, clearly marked.  I don't know if the driver was speeding or not. I do know I was probably one of the luckiest guys on the road that day.  I don't speed in work zones anymore. I dont speed period. Being in a work zone on/by a roadway is a scary thing when you see fools texting, weaving, doing 80, etc. Just because you can't see someone working doesn't mean they aren't there.

This.  As someone who has seen first hand what dangers are associated with speeding in work zones have caused I can say that the current penalties aren't harsh enough.  I have lost friends and colleagues to fatal work zone crashes so I have no sympathy for anyone caught speeding in a work zone.

[TheCasillas]

15 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

This.  As someone who has seen first hand what dangers are associated with speeding in work zones have caused I can say that the current penalties aren't harsh enough.  I have lost friends and colleagues to fatal work zone crashes so I have no sympathy for anyone caught speeding in a work zone.

First off, sympathy to your friends and colleagues. I am assuming you work in road construction? Appreciate the efforts you guys are putting in making traffic patterns better.

Second, there was no crash, and there was no fatal accident that occurred. TBH the area of which he was speeding is only a "work zone" because of the work on the off ramp and lane expansion. He was speeding on 77, and realistically from uptown to north lake its all work zone.

By law, this segment of 77 is labeled a work zone because of the highway maintenance.

Accosting DJ for speeding in a work zone is far different than the actual "work zone" of which he was speeding. 

The reason I say this, is because it needs to be clear that he was not going 113 mph in a residential work zone, or even a city work zone. He was on a highway with a lot of construction happening to the off ramps and lane expansion.

Again, he broke the law, he will be punished. However, to go to the extreme and cite that this kid risked lives of families just seems unnecessary and a bit egregious.

[panthers_fan_in_tx]

Sheesh I was scared he actually done something bad.   

[panthers_fan_in_tx]

I'm a trucker.  There are "work zones" all over this country where no work is being done.   I hope where DJ was was one of them.