Is Samuel in a no win situation this season?

[Car123]

9 hours ago, steven8989 said:

Haven't seen Smith do a damn thing to and don't give me this he has veteran leadership. Cut him and save 5 million to go get u some more oline help. I don't care who gives me poo. He is not worth it to be sitting Samuel on the bench or bryd not making the 53. The people on here have gone crazy!

Smith ran a good route and made a nice 16 yard grab on 3rd down against the ones. You can't underestimate experience. He is needed.

[KendrickPanther]

I don't get this theory that Ron will control who plays on offense. Norv Turner has enough experience and clout to play the guys that give his offense the best chance to score. If I had a guess, DJ Moore isn't getting many snap early in the year. Wright won't get many snaps either. With all the speedy underneath guys and our athleticism at the 2 TE Spot. We can rotate a lot of guys in on offense. Imagine Torry Smith running a 9 route then next play you have Samuel run the same route on the same DB. 

If we can keep the chains moving, our WRs can rotate and keep running at the defense. Samuel still has that backfield joker quality to him. 

[Roebling]

I think y'all are seriously undervaluing Torrey Smith. The dude has been a 1k receiver and he has the savvy to understand the nuances. Samuel flashes, but it's about consistency. I don't think Samuel is a more consistent player than Smith at this point in his career. I think you keep Torrey this year, and you cut him next. 

[RumHam]

We need a tackle, i think we need to cut Torrey and Wright. They're shown us absolutely nothing. Samuel is on fire. We need help elsewhere.

[CPcavedweller]

16 hours ago, CRA said:

Well....he hasn’t shown everything.  I mean preseason is preseason.  Samuel spending a lot of time vs backups and against defenses playing preseason D (which often isn’t about playcalling to stop a given play as much as it is about testing certain players with certain assignments)

not knocking Samuel though.  But I think the regular season will be an open competition.  Dudes who make plays will end up getting more time. 

Funchess’ niche is about the only given.  Smith, Samuel, Moore and Byrd will be a jumble until players make plays 

My opinion is that the starters should be Moore and Byrd, with Moore moving to the slot on third down while Funchess goes out wide. 

[pantherclaw]

7 hours ago, Car123 said:

Smith ran a good route and made a nice 16 yard grab on 3rd down against the ones. You can't underestimate experience. He is needed.

Trying to explain to any of them that Smith is our number 2, period, until another receiver takes the position from them. Athleticism and potential aren't enough to do it. 

[pantherclaw]

27 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

My opinion is that the starters should be Moore and Byrd, with Moore moving to the slot on third down while Funchess goes out wide. 

Lol

[Darvinsun]

46 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

My opinion is that the starters should be Moore and Byrd, with Moore moving to the slot on third down while Funchess goes out wide. 

I would like to see Moore, Byrd, Samuels funchess, olsen all in at 1 time. I think Norv will play thw guys based on match ups!

[caatfan]

1 hour ago, CPcavedweller said:

My opinion is that the starters should be Moore and Byrd, with Moore moving to the slot on third down while Funchess goes out wide. 

 I think they will go with experience for starters, and neither Moore nor Byrd have it. I would expect to see a lot more of Moore vs. Byrd, as well. Get him the ball and he's a RB. 

[RumHam]

Byrd is going to PS. 

[Byrdman4real]

1 minute ago, RumHam said:

Byrd is going to PS. 

Dont think he can go to PS, plus would get picked up 

[LinvilleGorge]

If we have to cut Smith in order to sign an OT, then so be it. But I'm in no rush to cut Smith to free up cash for this OT that may or may not be available. We'll cross that cap bridge when we and if we get there.

[CPcavedweller]

3 hours ago, caatfan said:

 I think they will go with experience for starters, and neither Moore nor Byrd have it. I would expect to see a lot more of Moore vs. Byrd, as well. Get him the ball and he's a RB. 

Experience can be gained on the job. Byrd showed too much last season when he played to leave him on the bench and the offense showed that 2015 spunk when he was in the game. This is the equivalent of having Smith and Ginn at the same time. Funchess could be a Moose type player if put in the right position, which isn't as a number one receiver. 

[caatfan]

14 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

Experience can be gained on the job.

Uh, that's kinda the one and only way to get it, but no matter how well Byrd and Moore perform in preseason and practice, my bet is that they won't be starting game one, and I think it's a pretty safe bet.