Thoughts on Trading Funchess?

[ellis]

Most wideouts of that size don’t create Antonio Brown-type separation. We can agree that’s not his strength. Julio Jones is elite in this regard—but it’s a short list. 

The value prop for a 1-for-1 trade doesn’t strike me as prudent. But, you never know. 

[h0llywood]

You get rid of Funchess and Torrey Smith becomes the tallest WR at 6'0". Not that it matters as I don't Funchess is getting trading with his current contract.

[MountaineerChemist10]

Besides, the best we could get for him is a 6th rounder, maybe a 5th. I'd keep him, let Samuel, Byrd & DJ learn from him/Smith & decide during the offseason.

[gmonjimbo]

Would only trade Funchess if it allows us to get Earl Thomas and use the contract we would have given him if he played well to Thomas. 

[top dawg]

19 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Because like KB, he can't create separation.

I wouldn't be in a rush to trade him but if the right offer came along for immediate help in the secondary I'd pull the trigger.

No way. We can get secondary help in the free agency market. It's not like any team is going to just trade away a DB with the commensurate potential that Funchess has. And I don't care if it's his last season. We need him this season.

[ChibCU]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

No way. We can get secondary help in the free agency market. It's not like any team is going to just trade away a DB with the commensurate potential that Funchess has. And I don't care if it's his last season. We need him this season.

How will we afford a secondary starter on the free agency market?

[OneBadCat]

This is a horrible idea. I don't understand why it is suggested.

[top dawg]

28 minutes ago, ChibCU said:

How will we afford a secondary starter on the free agency market?

It's not like we don't have options. Releasing Jones, Silatolu, Jacobs, Byrd, Artis-Payne (and perhaps some others) may just be enough to get Kayvon Webster (or, an aged Pacman Jones[I know, not popular]). And, honestly, it may be enough to sign Eric Reid. All we have to do is trim some fat. Furthermore, I wouldn't necessarily want to do it, but Smith is sitting there at $5,000,000. None of those moves each and of themselves or together will cause great dead cap space.

Hell, we could squeeze out some money by giving injury settlements to Cockrell, Sanchez and Whitaker.

Like I said, we have options depending upon what we'd want to do.

[Pantha-kun]

1 hour ago, h0llywood said:

You get rid of Funchess and Torrey Smith becomes the tallest WR at 6'0". Not that it matters as I don't Funchess is getting trading with his current contract.

yep, Bersin wouldve been our next tallest WR and hes not here anymore. 

Torrey Smith - 6'0'' , DJ Moore - 6'0'' ,  Curtis Samuel - 5'11'' , Jarius Wright 5'10'' , Damiere Byrd 5'9'', if you count CMC 5'11''

Would be asinine to cut your only WR above 6'0'' with a 6'5'' QB 

[Pejorative Miscreant]

1 hour ago, bobsfoodbasics said:

I would cut Torrey and use that $5m on some signings before I traded Funch

Not ready to sign off on this but it might be a viable option when cuts come around. I haven’t looked at how much we have in the cookie jar but I don’t think it’s much.  

If he gets cut the coaches have the be sure that the group they have is very solid.   As much as I would like to hope I don’t feel safe after one preseason game.  

[Pantha-kun]

26 minutes ago, top dawg said:

It's not like we don't have options. Releasing Jones, Silatolu, Jacobs, Byrd, Artis-Payne (and perhaps some others) may just be enough to get Kayvon Webster (or, an aged Pacman Jones[I know, not popular]). And, honestly, it may be enough to sign Eric Reid. All we have to do is trim some fat. Furthermore, I wouldn't necessarily want to do it, but Smith is sitting there at $5,000,000. None of those moves each and of themselves or together will cause great dead cap space.

Hell, we could squeeze out some money by giving injury settlements to Cockrell, Sanchez and Whitaker.

Like I said, we have options depending upon what we'd want to do.

Torrey Smith is the only WR on our roster that has proven in NFL games he can be a deep threat. Wouldnt like that move at all . Thats like cutting Ginn all over again and get stuck running against plenty more loaded boxes.

[DeeJay]

I mean if it gives us a better O-line help has to be at least 2 good players then MAYBE...

[top dawg]

12 minutes ago, Pantha-kun said:

Torrey Smith is the only WR on our roster that has proven in NFL games he can be a deep threat. Wouldnt like that move at all 

Like I said, I wouldn't want to do it, but if I had to to upgrade the secondary to pro form, I would. Samuel, Moore and Byrd (and even Funchess to some extent) do have the ability to get deep.  But, Smith aside, we could still trim some fat to sign Webster or Jones. Like I said somewhere, Robert McClain (though squarely Just A Guy) should come cheap, and he appears to be better than Seymour or Gunter. While you're worried about a deep threat with proven NFL experience, I'm worried about starter-level corners with real NFL experience. We look to have explosive, talented playmakers at receiver, but potential duds at CB. After last year, I'm not yet a believer.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

No way. We can get secondary help in the free agency market. It's not like any team is going to just trade away a DB with the commensurate potential that Funchess has. And I don't care if it's his last season. We need him this season.

That's what everyone keeps saying yet here we go into our third consecutive season of having a straight trash secondary while the NFL continues to evolve into a more and more pass happy league.