Preseason Week 1: Winners and Losers

[saints4lifeagain]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

How much did you pay Jairus Byrd for his services again?

He might not be a tackle, but it's a valid question.

My goodness people lol. 

The comment was Brees would have died. I agree with said comment, which is why the Saints have invested very well in the oline over his stay. 

At no point in time did I say the Saints haven't handed out a literal poo ton of poo contracts lol. Junior Galette. Byrd. Jimmy. Browner. Spiller. The list goes on, but I won't. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, saints4lifeagain said:

My goodness people lol. 

The comment was Brees would have died. I agree with said comment, which is why the Saints have invested very well in the oline over his stay. 

At no point in time did I say the Saints haven't handed out a literal poo ton of poo contracts lol. Junior Galette. Byrd. Jimmy. Browner. Spiller. The list goes on, but I won't. 

You didn't really expect to make a statement like that without people coming back at you, right?

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Agreed, but that's why it really irritated me tonight...  as KB was playing the series of his life, Cam almost threw a pick and the offense looked very Shula-like on that first series...  meanwhile, Peterman and his 49% completion percentage was 7 for 7 and KB was eating Seymour alive.  I felt compelled to jump uo and yell, "throw in the damn towel!"  Lol.

It was just really irritating because you won't find a bigger Cam guy than me, and I just didn't want KB to win this battle, even if it was preseason...  but as you said, ultimately it won't matter when the games count.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but KB can't do that consistently and I expect him to eventually just fade out of relevance in the next few seasons...  and that's not hate, I just never think he had the work ethic, focus, or dedication to the craft, and now that he got his Superbowl win, he'll go back to the same old, same old.  And needless to say, Cam is an NFL MVP, a generational talent, and a QB who has broke multiple HOF'ers career records while changing how the game is played from the position - both as a passer and runner...  he is the ultimate weapon.  But again, it just irked me that KB got his vengeance instead of appearing as his usual unfocused, fat, lazy, and disinterested self like he did here.

I've seen us (and numerous other teams) have awful pre-seasons be followed by fantastic regular seasons, and vice versa.

The only time I really want to raise an eyebrow is if we look awful in Preseason 3, but even then there's not always a correlation.

[saints4lifeagain]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You didn't really expect to make a statement like that without people coming back at you, right?

I guess I didn't mean it as as much of a slight as it seems to be taken as lol. 

What I was saying was, the Saints can't afford to have a Matt Khalil on the oline, because Drew would be retired already lol.

[Seltzer]

I'm confident Rivera can coach them up into a semi respectable group.

Needs to leave the offense to Norv and really put the time and input on the defense

[Proudiddy]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I've seen us (and numerous other teams) have awful pre-seasons be followed by fantastic regular seasons, and vice versa.

The only time I really want to raise an eyebrow is if we look awful in Preseason 3, but even then there's not always a correlation.

Definitely.  I honestly don't care about the outcomes in preseason.  I really only watch to have some kind of feel for the roster, depth, and improvement of our guys we've invested in.

The KB/Cam beef just got me a little more involved in this one than I usually would be.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, saints4lifeagain said:

I guess I didn't mean it as as much of a slight as it seems to be taken as lol. 

What I was saying was, the Saints can't afford to have a Matt Khalil on the oline, because Drew would be retired already lol.

Consider your audience, dude

[Seltzer]

1 minute ago, saints4lifeagain said:

I guess I didn't mean it as as much of a slight as it seems to be taken as lol. 

What I was saying was, the Saints can't afford to have a Matt Khalil on the oline, because Drew would be retired already lol.

That one gif of Kalil was bad, and unfortunately I'm sure there will be more throughout the year.

As for tonight, I'm sure Panthers fans are way more concerned about Seymour looking like 2015 Browner out there and the secondary in general looking bad.

However, we finally have a legit receiving corp, and CJ Anderson along with a bulked up McCaffrey and Cam is going to be every bit as dangerous as Kamara and Ingram

[saints4lifeagain]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Consider your audience, dude

You're right. It could be better. 

 

1 minute ago, Seltzer said:

That one gif of Kalil was bad, and unfortunately I'm sure there will be more throughout the year.

As for tonight, I'm sure Panthers fans are way more concerned about Seymour looking like 2015 Browner out there and the secondary in general looking bad.

However, we finally have a legit receiving corp, and CJ Anderson along with a bulked up McCaffrey and Cam is going to be every bit as dangerous as Kamara and Ingram

Kamara and Ingram just put together one of the best seasons by a RB duo in history. Lets see CJ and CMC play together before we get into them being every bit as dangerous.

[Seltzer]

17 minutes ago, saints4lifeagain said:

You're right. It could be better. 

 

Kamara and Ingram just put together one of the best seasons by a RB duo in history. Lets see CJ and CMC play together before we get into them being every bit as dangerous.

You joking people about not following the conversation, but I said those 2 plus Cam. 

I'm not throwing shade on their historic season or saying CMC/CJ are as good as a duo as Kamara/Ingram, but collectively Carolinas run game is just as much of a threat as the Saints.

Cam Newton if he retired tomorrow is already one of the greatest red zone runners in NFL history. He makes any backfield dangerous.

My point being that adding a proven 1000 yard rusher still in his prime in Anderson with McCaffrey who has bulked up substantially with Cam scares any defensive coordinator in the league every bit as much as Kamara/Ingram

 

[Mr. Scot]

I'd say the biggest boost to our run game this season is likely to be a 66 year old assistant coach.

[TheSpecialJuan]

Cam Newton and the first-string offense were solid if unspectacular today, but both of the Panthers young wide receivers, Curtis Samuel and D.J. Moore, had promising preseason debuts. Each finished with four catches and over 10 yards per catch.

On defense, rookies Donte Jackson and Rashaan Gaulden combined for 57 fairly non-descript snaps. They were only targeted three times on the day allowing two catches between the rookie duo.

On the defensive line, after contributing next to nothing his first two seasons in the league, Vernon Butler started showing flashes of why he was drafted in the first round. He had a few nice pass-rushes in 17 snaps in the first half.

[TheSpecialJuan]

Just now, TheSpecialJuan said:

Cam Newton and the first-string offense were solid if unspectacular today, but both of the Panthers young wide receivers, Curtis Samuel and D.J. Moore, had promising preseason debuts. Each finished with four catches and over 10 yards per catch.

On defense, rookies Donte Jackson and Rashaan Gaulden combined for 57 fairly non-descript snaps. They were only targeted three times on the day allowing two catches between the rookie duo.

On the defensive line, after contributing next to nothing his first two seasons in the league, Vernon Butler started showing flashes of why he was drafted in the first round. He had a few nice pass-rushes in 17 snaps in the first half.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-2018-panthers-28-bills-23

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

On defense, rookies Donte Jackson and Rashaan Gaulden combined for 57 fairly non-descript snaps. They were only targeted three times on the day allowing two catches between the rookie duo.

These guys need to start next week. Throw them to the wolves and see how they handle it. There's no reason not to. The vets in front of them absolutely fuging suck.