Observations from camp today.....

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

not sure if you are trolling here..... but there are 3 linebackers spots.... What did DG do last year's draft to fill those 3rd spot?

As you stated: 

Previous"FO" noticed too, but got fired for suggesting something should be done about it.

 

So DG went through the draft and FA and said "we should just cut Davis" without a plan but a suggestion? If he had cut Davis..... we had zero depth at outside LB.

 

Pop quiz: What's our defensive scheme, and what have they run as a base formation for the past several years?

And to be clear, the idea wasn't to cut Davis but to scale back his playing time and use him as a backup. Even that, however, was too much to ask.

[CarolinaNCSU]

Sucks, but TD visibly declining may be best for all.  Forces Shaq to get those reps, and if TD truly does come back next year, it's in a situational role only.

 

Still hoping we see a decent OL cut or Hurney makes a move.  Nothing higher than a 3rd, but I'm all for Hurney bringing in a proven guy to help stabilize the line. 

[TheCasillas]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Pop quiz: What's our defensive scheme, and what have they run as a base formation for the past several years?

And to be clear, the idea wasn't to cut Davis but to scale back his playing time and use him as a backup. Even that, however, was too much to ask.

We run a modified version of the Tampa 2, that we will disguise into a cover 4 defense. We run a hybrid nickel defense around 34% of defensive snaps. Our nickel role is normally run by a joker style player. Who is the joker? the 3rd linebacker or big box safety (last year Colin, this year Gaulden.)

Then be more clear next time. I agree with the less playing time (this year). Thomas Davis wasn't the issue with our defense last year.

 

Rivera and Hurney both said that Thompson will get more run than davis.

[Harbingers]

8 minutes ago, Cuttinedge said:

We didn’t have one the past 2 years DA was terrible. Dude got paid well to suck and shoot fake jump shots on the sideline as Cam ran off the field 

He was in decline. That is quite obvious.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, TheCasillas said:

We run a modified version of the Tampa 2, that we will disguise into a cover 3 defense. We run a hybrid nickel defense around 34% of defensive snaps. Our nickel role is normally run by a joker style player. Who is the joker? the 3rd linebacker or big box safety (last year Colin, this year Gaulden.)

Then be more clear next time. I agree with the less playing time (this year). Thomas Davis wasn't the issue with our defense last year.

Wrong. (Lemme guess, did you Google that?)

[TheCasillas]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Wrong. (Lemme guess, did you Google that?)

Nope wrote a long post about this last year. Okay Mr. Scot get on your high horse and educate everyone.

[CarolinaSamurai]

13 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

It has nothing to do with age or experience. And I’m knocking on wood as I say this but forbid Cam is out for anything longer than a few games. We simply don’t have cap space this year to pick up a decent stopgap. 

Again, knocking on wood.

No one does though. You either have a Vet starter with a developmental backup or a Rookie starter with a vet backup. Unless you have the Cap from having a rookie QB so you can afford a high priced backup(ala Eagles) or your developmental QB is way better than you expected(ala Tom Brady) then you screwed and so is every other team in the league. 

[TheCasillas]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Wrong. (Lemme guess, did you Google that?)

To correct my typo from earlier - believe me or not- I meant to put cover 4 which I have since then corrected. Chalk it up to iPhone fat fingers.

[Mr. Scot]

14 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

Nope wrote a long post about this last year. Okay Mr. Scot get on your high horse and educate everyone.

Don't have to educate everyone, just you.

Ron Rivera only ran a Tampa 2 in Chicago because that was what Lovie Smith wanted. His preferred defensive scheme is a 4-3 zone blitz, utilized for years by both his and Sean McDermott's defensive mentor in Philly, Jim Johnson.

Johnson's attack made frequent use of two linebackers as a base formation, with those two linebackers often shooting the A gaps to create confusion and mismatches on the opposing O-Line.

Mind you, Wilks did run some more Cover 2 last year, but he also blitzed far more frequently than McDermott did. And most would tell you our defense under Wilks wasn't as good.

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Don't have to educate everyone, just you.

Ron Rivera only ran a Tampa 2 in Chicago because that was what Lovie Smith wanted. His preferred defensive scheme is a 4-3 zone blitz, utilized for years by both his and Sean McDermott's defensive mentor in Philly, Jim Johnson.

Johnson's attack made frequent use of two linebackers as a base formation, with those two linebackers often shooting the A gaps to create confusion and mismatches on the opposing O-Line.

Mind you, Wilks did run some more Cover 2 last year, but Will also blitzed far more frequently than McDermott did. And most would tell you our offense under Wilks wasn't as good.

I actually just lost some respect for you. I really thought you knew your stuff. McDermott ran the Tampa Cover 2 the entire time he was here. Last year, we ran more cover 4 than cover 2. There is statistical evidence to back that up, if you GOOGLE it.

What you are referring to is a play or pre-formation lineup. They stack the A gap over center to disguise their coverage/blitz. The obvious tell that we run a T2 is the fact that kuechly is always dons.eep center of the field - where he gets his interceptions. The T2 defense is designed for the safeties to protect the sidelines while the MLB roams and protect the mid to deep mid.

2015, our super bowl year, we ran more tampa 2 than any other team in the league.  

"The Panthers are in a Tampa 2-style zone defense with two deep safeties and Kuechly carrying the seam." -BJ Kissell

"A guide to beating the Carolina Panthers’ defense and the Tampa 2" -SBNation

 

One more thing Mr. Scott, under McDermott the panthers blitzed less than 2/3 of the league. They were a mild 24.9% blitz rate team under McDermott. McDermott early years we were sub 20%.

 

At this point go ahead and reply with your typical "Nah." or whatever you say. You should use google a bit more and get your statistics. You will probably reply with something to spin what you said earlier or prove this wrong, but I did the research and Ive watched this damn team for 23 years, and I know what the fug im talking about.

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

I actually just lost some respect for you. I really thought you knew your stuff. McDermott ran the Tampa Cover 2 the entire time he was here. Last year, we ran more cover 4 than cover 2. There is statistical evidence to back that up, if you GOOGLE it.

What you are referring to is a play or pre-formation lineup. They stack the A gap over center to disguise their coverage/blitz. The obvious tell that we run a T2 is the fact that kuechly is always dons.eep center of the field - where he gets his interceptions. The T2 defense is designed for the safeties to protect the sidelines while the MLB roams and protect the mid to deep mid.

2015, our super bowl year, we ran more tampa 2 than any other team in the league.  

"The Panthers are in a Tampa 2-style zone defense with two deep safeties and Kuechly carrying the seam." -BJ Kissell

"A guide to beating the Carolina Panthers’ defense and the Tampa 2" -SBNation

One more thing Mr. Scott, under McDermott the panthers blitzed less than 2/3 of the league. They were a mild 24.9% blitz rate team under McDermott. McDermott early years we were sub 20%.

At this point go ahead and reply with your typical "Nah." or whatever you say. You should use google a bit more and get your statistics. You will probably reply with something to spin what you said earlier or prove this wrong, but I did the research and Ive watched this damn team for 23 years, and I know what the fug im talking about.

I don't need to "use more google" to know football. The fact that you suggest that (and that you think an SB Nation quote makes for good backup) tells me a lot.

Regardless, McDermott ran the same defense here that he ran in Philly. He didn't spend years learning and running one scheme just to switch to something else.

If you're going to "use more google", I'd suggest googling Jim Johnson and Dick LeBeau. Or perhaps just google "zone blitz" because I'm not sure you know what it is.

[tondi]

Pretty much any team is screwed if their QB goes down for any length of time.  How are we supposed to have a proven, quality backup when a quarter of the league is starting bums?

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, tondi said:

Pretty much any team is screwed if their QB goes down for any length of time.  How are we supposed to have a proven, quality backup when a quarter of the league is starting bums?

Ask the Eagles.

(granted, their situation is far from the norm)

[Snake]

1 hour ago, Lumps said:

TD and RKalil should have been done. This was a good year to do it...if we kept Norwell. Would have been nice to keep Norman too.

Tis’ not the Panther/Hurney way though. We’ll drag this out and cling on, reward then for being fan favorites. God forbid our team look to the future or hurt casual fans’ feelings.

But maybe Tepper is just letting this year play out and the Panthers shift their main goal to winning.

JR was more likely to cut Cam than TD or R. Kalil.