Major Rule (Point of Emphasis Change)

[jfra78]

Touchdown or no?

[jfra78]

2 hours ago, Wyank said:

https://youtu.be/s9qtXIhmh4A

 

Vick dive wouldn't of been a TD. 

why you bring that poo up, still think about this play

[Mage]

4 hours ago, Bama Panther said:

We may be arguing semantics. When I read the scenario they lat out in the article, I see that as a leap and/or dive. It is a situation in which a player isn’t leaving his feet with his head leading the way. That is a dive, even if he “leaps.” Given how the NFL has been with interpreting its own rules, I don’t see where they would differentiate between a head first dive and a head first leap. About the “giving himself up,” the example given is not a “giving himself up” situation; that is a straight attempt to gain more yards, but they are saying the rule would mean the player was down where the dive/leap started. We will see how it plays out, I guess. 

A DIVE ISNT A LEAP.

It’s not about semantics. They are literally just two different things. You can’t leap while not leaving your feet.  That defies what it means to leap.  

I don’t know how to better explain it.  You keep saying dive/leap like they are interchangeable when they aren’t.  They are clearly referring to plays where the QB gives himself up by going down head first, something Cam did a lot early on because he couldn’t/wouldn’t slide feet first.

Nowhere in the article does the referee mention leaping.  

[FakePlasticTrees]

23 minutes ago, Mage said:

A DIVE ISNT A LEAP.

It’s not about semantics. They are literally just two different things. You can’t leap while not leaving your feet.  That defies what it means to leap.  

I don’t know how to better explain it.  You keep saying dive/leap like they are interchangeable when they aren’t.  They are clearly referring to plays where the QB gives himself up by going down head first, something Cam did a lot early on because he couldn’t/wouldn’t slide feet first.

Nowhere in the article does the referee mention leaping.  

I think the later part of the article belies your interpratation:

“It’s a big change this year,” line judge Rusty Baynes told ESPN. “Because if you were a runner or a quarterback and you dove head first you could, if you were untouched, get all of that slide. If you went head first. Now, you cannot. It’ll be interesting to see what happens at the goal line.”

Interesting indeed: Imagine it’s fourth-and-goal in the final seconds of the game, a quarterback whose team trails by five points drops back to pass, then sees an opening in the middle of the field, runs toward the end zone, and just as a linebacker approaches at the 1-yard line the quarterback dives head-first into the end zone. That won’t be a game-winning touchdown anymore. It will be the quarterback giving himself up at the 1-yard line. The first time that happens, there’s going to be outrage from players, coaches and fans of the losing team.

[Mage]

38 minutes ago, FakePlasticTrees said:

I think the later part of the article belies your interpratation:

“It’s a big change this year,” line judge Rusty Baynes told ESPN. “Because if you were a runner or a quarterback and you dove head first you could, if you were untouched, get all of that slide. If you went head first. Now, you cannot. It’ll be interesting to see what happens at the goal line.”

Interesting indeed: Imagine it’s fourth-and-goal in the final seconds of the game, a quarterback whose team trails by five points drops back to pass, then sees an opening in the middle of the field, runs toward the end zone, and just as a linebacker approaches at the 1-yard line the quarterback dives head-first into the end zone. That won’t be a game-winning touchdown anymore. It will be the quarterback giving himself up at the 1-yard line. The first time that happens, there’s going to be outrage from players, coaches and fans of the losing team.

Please explain how?  That scenario describes a QB giving himself up to avoid a hit, not attempting to score.

How do you guys not understand the difference between that and a leap?  A player leaving his feet, which is what a leap implies, is not a player giving himself up.  They are describing a dive, not a leap.  I don’t know why y’all don’t understand the difference.

[FakePlasticTrees]

2 hours ago, Mage said:

Please explain how?  That scenario describes a QB giving himself up to avoid a hit, not attempting to score.

How do you guys not understand the difference between that and a leap?  A player leaving his feet, which is what a leap implies, is not a player giving himself up.  They are describing a dive, not a leap.  I don’t know why y’all don’t understand the difference.

Reread the scenario:

Interesting indeed: Imagine it’s fourth-and-goal in the final seconds of the game, a quarterback whose team trails by five points drops back to pass, then sees an opening in the middle of the field, runs toward the end zone, and just as a linebacker approaches at the 1-yard line the quarterback dives head-first into the end zone. That won’t be a game-winning touchdown anymore. It will be the quarterback giving himself up at the 1-yard line. The first time that happens, there’s going to be outrage from players, coaches and fans of the losing team.

*The QB runs toward the end zone and dives head-first into the end zone. Under the new point of emphasis this will not be a TD.