Matt Moore starting is highly unlikely....

[Mr. Scot]

I agree that the Panthers need a new QB, but turning the team over to a guy who doesnt have the talent to play, let alone start, in the NFL is a horrible idea.

Apparently not that horrible of an idea

(sorry, I couldn't resist) :sosp:

[thejimmy]

This thread title scared me for a moment...until I saw the date.

[Mr. Scot]

I'd like to think if John Fox had it to do over again, he'd do it differently. Can't say I know that, though. His middle name is "stubborn".

I thought Moore could do well as a starter, but I'll freely admit he's outperformed my expectations to this point.

[DaveThePanther2008]

Same here.

[venom]

This thread title scared me for a moment...until I saw the date.

hahahah yea me too

[RazzleDazzle]

hahahah yea me too

Me 3. I was getting ready to call Mr. Scott an idiot but noticed the date.

[Mr. Scot]

I was getting ready to call Mr. Scott an idiot but noticed the date.

It's been done before :sosp:

(and worse)

[panthers55]

I'd like to think if John Fox had it to do over again, he'd do it differently. Can't say I know that, though. His middle name is "stubborn".

I thought Moore could do well as a starter, but I'll freely admit he's outperformed my expectations to this point.

I think he has outperformed everyone's expectations. If the rumors that have circulated that Moore doesn't have a strong work ethic and struggles with the playbook are true then it is understandable why Fox was reluctant to pull the trigger especially after his lackluster play against the Eagles and mediocre preseasons the past 2 years.

Still it is clear that Moore is more of a gamer than he is a workout warrior which is in my mind is infinitely more important. He is clearly the best option at this point and is taking full advantage of his opportunity particularly the past 2 games.

I know you wanted him in earlier and that is a popular sentiment among fans. It has borne out to be correct. But honestly this has been a very pleasant surprise. I am not sure anybody thought this is how things would turn out this year looking back a few months. Plus I wonder if he really was ready to start earlier or whether he needed the time to get ready to play.

[Mr. Scot]

I think he has outperformed everyone's expectations. If the rumors that have circulated that Moore doesn't have a strong work ethic and struggles with the playbook are true then it is understandable why Fox was reluctant to pull the trigger especially after his lackluster play against the Eagles and mediocre preseasons the past 2 years.

Still it is clear that Moore is more of a gamer than he is a workout warrior which is in my mind is infinitely more important. He is clearly the best option at this point and is taking full advantage of his opportunity particularly the past 2 games.

I know you wanted him in earlier and that is a popular sentiment among fans. It has borne out to be correct. But honestly this has been a very pleasant surprise. I am not sure anybody thought this is how things would turn out this year looking back a few months. Plus I wonder if he really was ready to start earlier or whether he needed the time to get ready to play.

He's made good progress (other thread) which is realistically what you hope for in a young guy.

I wish that progress would have started earlier. He'd likely be a lot further along right now and/or we'd know more of what we have, but c'est la vie.

[Guild]

He's made good progress (other thread) which is realistically what you hope for in a young guy.

I wish that progress would have started earlier. He'd likely be a lot further along right now and/or we'd know more of what we have, but c'est la vie.

Maybe next year he'll be the next Tom Brady and we'll draft the next Randy Moss (since we already have a Welker).

[jpniner]

Should've started 2nd game, atleast for one game before give Delhomme a 3rd chance. It was clear to any thinking person that something was seriously wrong with Delhomme after Az playoff game and then the re-peat the very next game vs. Philly. Pro QB's don't make those kind of mistakes, and you don't reward them when they do.

Wonder what our record would be, with a QB performing like Moore so far but all year long.

[panthers55]

Should've started 2nd game, atleast for one game before give Delhomme a 3rd chance. It was clear to any thinking person that something was seriously wrong with Delhomme after Az playoff game and then the re-peat the very next game vs. Philly. Pro QB's don't make those kind of mistakes, and you don't reward them when they do.

Wonder what our record would be, with a QB performing like Moore so far but all year long.

Why should Moore have started the second game? Against Philadelphia he threw a pick and was 6 of 11 for 63 yards and a passer rating of 33. Given that Jake had a rating of 82 against Atlanta in week 2, it made no sense to pull the trigger at that point. Neither had a good first game and Jake was playing better. It wasn't as much Jake was struggling which he was, but that we had no one else to take over. If you were going to pull him it would have been in the Tampa/Buffalo stretch or again in the Miami/Jets stretch which they did. In between those games he played better.

Nothing about Moore's practice, film work or anything suggested he would be as good as he has turned out to be. Hindsight is 20-20 but it wastes time doing the what-if game. Anymore than what if Moore came in too soon like you suggested and stunk up the place and lost his confidence like Jake. Then we would have nothing going to 2010. It is possible he started when he was ready to start just like it is possible he would have burned up the league if he started earlier and we would be in the playoffs.

[Mr. Scot]

My ideal (read: hindsight) timetable would have had him starting game four, after the bye week (and the 0-3 start).

[panthers55]

My ideal (read: hindsight) timetable would have had him starting game four, after the bye week (and the 0-3 start).

That would have required them to put all the resources into getting Matt ready by playing a lot with the 1s rather than try and fix what was going on with Jake over the bye. They obviously didn't have faith in Moore and chose in hindsight the wrong choice. Perhaps if the bye had been week 7 for example that is exactly what we would have done. The other thing to note is that they might have believed the defense was a big part of the problem as well and if they fixed that, the offense and Jake would play better. Still the turnovers had to be a huge issue especially when we weren't creating many on defense either.