Panthers one of most over-rated teams

[Burnout189]

3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Call me a homer but honestly I think there is a reasonable chance to go all the way to Atlanta if we win our division. That of course will be very difficult but not impossible.

I can't agree with this more. The NFCS has proven to be one of, if not the, toughest division in the NFL as of late. If we can win the division this year then we have just as good a shot as any of winning the whole damn thing.

[Mr. Scot]

I'm not a fan of Bleacher Report, but anyone who is familiar with this team's history has every right to expect that a good year will be followed by a down year.

Until we prove otherwise, it's hard to blame anybody for expecting us to be inconsistent.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not a fan of Bleacher Report, but anyone who is familiar with this team's history has every right to expect that a good year will be followed by a down year.

Until we prove otherwise, it's hard to blame anybody for expecting us to be inconsistent.

Yet, none of them that I've seen are stating that as their reason for thinking that we'll regress. 

I mean it's legit but I'm not going to give them credit for an argument that they're not using.

[*FreeFua*]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Context. I know you don't understand it, but it would definitely help your posting immensely. Your shtick of storming into threads aggressively and condescendingly like you're the smartest guy in the room when in reality you don't understand the context of the post you're responding too is beyond old and it's why no one takes you seriously. You're the temper tantrum throwing toddler in the restaurant that everyone wishes that their parents would take them home so the adults could continue to enjoy their meals.

How triggered?

See I often just poo post to rile up people like you (clearly I’m good at it) whereas you actually come on here thinking your opinion means something. You put your two cents into every single thread looking to be taken serious. It’s sad and truly pathetic.

Newsflash, this is a internet message board... let that sink in. My pic is the Cleveland Browns logo, I don’t think I’m the one here looking to be taken very seriously dummy.

 

[Moo Daeng]

You have to look at the reasons for the good year/bad year pattern. It's not Voodoo. There are tangible reasons for it.  People here seemed to be blind to the obvious loss of talent and leadership in the secondary and then injuries on the OL in 2016.  These were elephant in the room problems.  At this point those huge obvious issues don't exist.  

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

How triggered?

See I often just poo post to rile up people like you (clearly I’m good at it) whereas you actually come on here thinking your opinion means something. You put your two cents into every single thread looking to be taken serious. It’s sad and truly pathetic.

Newsflash, this is a internet message board... let that sink in. My pic is the Cleveland Browns logo, I don’t think I’m the one here looking to be taken very seriously dummy.

 

An admitted internet troll calling others "sad and truly pathetic". That's the best irony we'll see all day.

[Devil Doc]

Are we Overrated? Or a bad team? I have heard both. I have also heard that CMC shouldn't have been rated as high as Fournette, when CMC only had 54 less yards as him. It is ridiculous.

[*FreeFua*]

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

An admitted internet troll calling others "sad and truly pathetic". That's the best irony we'll see all day.

Nothing I say should really trigger anyone but yet here we are.

I have no problem engaging in proper football discussions with several members here (only reason I still come here) but let’s face it, this site is what it is at this point. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

Nothing I say should really trigger anyone but yet here we are.

I have no problem engaging in proper football discussions with several members here (only reason I still come here) but let’s face it, this site is what it is at this point. 

More like you have no problem rushing into a thread and making an ass of yourself and then pulling the "oh, I'm just trolling" card when you get called on it.

[PhillyB]

1 hour ago, Dex said:

I agree with everything except for the last sentence.

i was about to say, that all looks pretty spot on. none of our wide receivers really scare anyone and without cam at the helm we'd be the late 2000s bears on offense 

[FakePlasticTrees]

1 hour ago, Manther said:

NFL's Most Overrated Teams Entering 2018 Training Camp

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2783921-nfls-most-overrated-teams-entering-2018-training-camp#slide1

What they are billed as: A former NFC champ getting back to the things that made them contenders.

What they are: A former NFC champ moving away from the things that made them contenders.

The Panthers are weak at wide receiver, weak in the secondary, old and thin at the pass-rush positions, expensive and ineffective on the offensive line, and coping with suspensions and injury concerns at linebacker. They have turned their offense over to a coordinator in Norv Turner who is likely to nerf their most dynamic players.

Last year's team had significantly weaker receivers. I think Poe is an upgrade at DT and as much as I like Charles Johnson, he was virtually nonexistent last season. His production should be replaceable. I can only guess the meaning of "nerfing" players, but it hard for me to envision that the new system will be worse than the old system in terms of predictability. We are clearly deeper at CB than recent years . The Panthers are 32-16 in regular season games over the last three years. I do not know what the Panther's record will be this season, but this analysis is sorely lacking. I believe this roster is better than the 2015, 2016, and 2017 rosters.

BTW, you have to go pretty far in the past to find a Panther roster that entered a season without offensive line issues. They have certainly been evident entering the last three seasons.

[Mr. Scot]

22 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yet, none of them that I've seen are stating that as their reason for thinking that we'll regress. 

I mean it's legit but I'm not going to give them credit for an argument that they're not using.

I mean, most of us here probably wouldn't have high expectations of say, the Texans, even if they had a really good season last year. They're in our minds as a middling team, and for good reason.

I don't think they necessarily have to have the lack of back-to-back winning seasons directly in mind when they write this, honestly.

The general perception of the Panthers has been that they're mostly mediocre but occasionally show up. And as much as I hate to say it, that's fair given our track record.

Like I said, until we prove otherwise, and that's a process that would take probably somewhere from five years or more of consistent winning.

Till then, yeah it sucks to be doubted, but it's also hard to blame them.

[*FreeFua*]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

More like you have no problem rushing into a thread and making an ass of yourself and then pulling the "oh, I'm just trolling" card when you get called on it.

I stand by my original post.

That’s not the first time you’ve thrown out the “but but but we had no WR’s in 2015” card. Now if it was the first time combined with the blurb you provided then I’d give you the benefit of the doubt. However, you’re always the first to pipe up when it comes to not paying WR’s and citing 2015.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I mean, most of us here probably wouldn't have high expectations of say, the Texans, even if they had a really good season last year. They're in our minds as a middling team, and for good reason.

I don't think they necessarily have to have the lack of back-to-back winning seasons directly in mind when they write this, honestly.

The general perception of the Panthers has been that they're mostly mediocre but occasionally show up. And as much as I hate to say it, that's fair given our track record.

Like I said, until we prove otherwise, and that's a process that would take probably somewhere from five years or more of consistent winning.

Till then, yeah it sucks to be doubted, but it's also hard to blame them.

I think the Texans are likely to be pretty damn good if Watson stays healthy.