The "Way Too Early" Pre-Training Camp prediction of our 53 man roster thread (Bonus Practice Squad guess too!)

[steven8989]

No way Elder will be on the practice squad. He will be making the team

[Bronn]

5 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

No way Elder will be on the practice squad. He will be making the team

Who do you cut to put him there? Another CB? Or, do you carry 6 CBs?

[Woodie]

1 hour ago, SetfreexX said:

We're not keeping 7 DE's on the roster -

Addison / Peppers / Hall / Horton / Haynes -- Cox Jr & Odaba I believe are still PS eligible, I don't see us benching Haynes a 4th rounder for two UDFA's with PS eligibility. 

 

A couple of those guys will end up on IR for an ingrown toenail.

[catnip]

Why not try Bersin at TE.  He knows the system , he is cheap , has sure hands , and is big enough for the position . Surely he is good enough for the third backup spot .

[KB_fan]

23 minutes ago, catnip said:

Why not try Bersin at TE.  He knows the system , he is cheap , has sure hands , and is big enough for the position . Surely he is good enough for the third backup spot .

This actually is an interesting idea, LOL. The entertainment value alone of the Panthers Twitter meltdown and the jokes make this fun to consider.

I can't imagine it would ever happen, but he'd be cheap, and he's local.

How good was Bersin's blocking? So many of his reps were to help us get a crucial 1st down, I don't really remember his blocking.

[Camp Fodder]

5 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

This actually is an interesting idea, LOL. The entertainment value alone of the Panthers Twitter meltdown and the jokes make this fun to consider.

I can't imagine it would ever happen, but he'd be cheap, and he's local.

How good was Bersin's blocking? So many of his reps were to help us get a crucial 1st down, I don't really remember his blocking.

He would be an upgrade from Manhertz

[Jay Roosevelt]

QB: 2
Cam Newton
Garrett Gilbert

RB: 3
Christian McCaffrey
C.J. Anderson
Cameron Artis-Payne

FB: 1
Alex Armah

WR: 6
Devin Funchess
D.J. Moore
Torrey Smith
Curtis Samuel
Jarius Wright
Damiere Byrd

TE: 3
Greg Olsen
Ian Thomas
VETERAN FREE AGENT

OT: 3
Daryl Williams
Matt Kalil
VETERAN FREE AGENT

OG: 5
Trai Turner
Taylor Moton
Amini Silatolu
Jeremiah Sirles
Greg Van Roten

C: 2
Ryan Kalil
Tyler Larsen

-----------------

DE: 6
Julius Peppers
Mario Addison
Wes Horton
Marquis Haynes
Daeshon Hall
Bryan Cox, Jr.

DT: 4
Kawann Short
Dontari Poe
Vernon Butler
Kendrick Norton

LB: 6
Luke Kuechly
Thomas Davis
Shaq Thompson
David Mayo
Jermaine Carter
Jared Norris

CB: 5
James Bradberry
Ross Cockrell
Donte Jackson
Captain Munnerlyn
Corn Elder

S: 4
Mike Adams
Da'Norris Searcy
Rashaan Gaulden
Colin Jones

ST: 3
Graham Gano
Michael Palardy
J.J. Jansen

[Sasquatch]

1 hour ago, catnip said:

Why not try Bersin at TE.  He knows the system , he is cheap , has sure hands , and is big enough for the position . Surely he is good enough for the third backup spot .

An inch maybe 2 shorter than the average NFL TE. Maybe 40 -50 pounds lighter. Force a Big Mac or 2 down his gullet and suit him up.

[PleaseCutStewart]

On 7/18/2018 at 1:07 PM, Bronn said:

Make your guesses at how our final roster(s) turn out here.

I used the roster manager at Spotrac and came up with the team below. By their values, and with the salary adjustments I made for PS players, this gives us cap room of around $1.9 Million.

Offense (24):

 

QB:
Cam
Gilbert

I still like Gilbert as the backup, but we might end up snagging someone from cuts.

 

RB:
Anderson
McCaffrey
Barner

The CAP/Barner battle will be one to watch. Someone suggested trading CAP in another thread, and I have to admit he is one of the more likely tradeable players on our team. Barner, IIRC, brings more to the return game, so I give him the nod.

 

FB:
Armah

 

He'll be a better player in this system, and used a lot more in different sets (including TE.) At least, I hope.

WR:
Funchess
Smith
Moore
Wright
Samuel
Byrd

 

Only one we're missing here is Bersin, ha. But yeah, I think all 6 of these will make the 53 man roster, but Byrd, Samuel, or Wright sit each week.

TE:
Olsen
Thomas
FA Signee

Looking at our roster, this may trump safety as far as depth need. I think we'll snag someone here post cuts for sure, IF we don't trade for someone or bring them in during camp.

 

T:
Kalil
Williams
Moton

 

Can any of them play LT? Kalil will hold it down another year, but I like some of the younger guys we've got hanging around, at least on paper.

G:
Turner
Van Roten
Sirles
Silatolu

LG will be another TC battle to watch. It could end up being someone not listed on this G list (read Larsen or Moton,) but I'll give the edge to Van Roten.

C:
Kalil
Larsen

Maybe the best C and backup C combo in the league?

Defense (26):

 

DE:
Pep
Addison
Horton
Hall
Obada
Cox
Haynes

 

We're pretty set here IMHO. I think Hall and Obada will surprise.

DT:
Short
Poe
Butler
Love

 

Stacked. Try to run at this rotation. I dare you.

LB:
Kuechly
Davis
Thompson
Mayo
Norris
Carter
Smith

 

I like both rookies to make the 53 man roster. It pushes Jacobs out, though.

CB:
Cockrell
Bradberry
Gunter
Jackson
Seymour

I think Captain is gone, despite the hit. I don't know that he ever really got out of the doghouse from anything I've read, and tbqh he played like hot garbage. Bradberry might be in danger, tbqh. I think we're pretty good here, however.

S:
Adams
Searcy
Gaulden

Colin Jones not making the cut makes this a pretty thin unit, and I expect we've got Boston or someone on speed dial. As long as Adams and Searcy don't have to play catch up and can keep the action in front of them, I think we'll be okay. As far as Gaulden goes, I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Special Teams (3):
Gano
Palardy
Jansen

 

No questions here.

For the PS players, I dropped all their salaries to $150,000 or so. It could end up being a little more or a little less on a case-by-case basis. The only real surprise here is Elder, I suppose. I think that if we cut him and re-sign him to the PS he gets a new contract, which will give us a few more dollars in space. He, Cox, and Southward, I did set salary values of $250,000 for.

Practice Squad:
QB - Heinicke
WR - Howard
TE - Baylis
T - Eatmon
G - Bosch
DT - Norton
DT - Sprinkle
CB – Elder
CB – Southward
S – Cox

 

 

We aren't keeping 7 DEs and 7 LBs. Probably 5 DEs and 6 LBs and add a S, T, and RB (or 3rd QB)

[SetfreexX]

Corners:

Bradberry / Seymour / Cockrell / Jackson / Munnerlyn / Elder (If we keep 5 I see Munnerlyn as the odd man out)

Safeties:

Searcy / Adams / Jones / Gaulden (Cox, & Southward I can't see beating out the vets, PS is an option if eligible, Jones is a ST stalwart & Gaulden is the 3rd rounder so to me they'll round out the rotation) *Personally would like to see Southward over Jones, but the staff is loyal to veterans even if a roster spot is questionably occupied (Bersin, Amini, Jones, Jacobs, Norris) -- none of them have real upside but they make the team every year for ''special teams, experience, depth.'' 

I do think both the rokkie LB'ers have a chance to unseat Jacobs, & Norris. 

[KB_fan]

Two things to add.  Thanks it just dawned on me that TD won't count as one of the 53 men on the roster for the 1st 4 games (5 weeks since the bye is so early).  So that opens up a slot for some guy on the bubble to get a few more weeks to impress.  Got to think we'll start the season with 6 LBs not including TD, giving Carter and Smith better chances of getting a spot.

2. Bill Both provided helpful clarification on Obada's status in today's Grill Bill.  Sounds like he is eligible for promotion, but yes he also could be claimed off our PS by other teams, unless we specifically designate him again as IPPP Exempt, in which case he is locked into our PS again, no promotion, no switching teams. Do it sounded like we have a choice whether or not to give him the "IPPP tag" or treat him as a normal player.

[TheSpecialJuan]

On 7/18/2018 at 10:07 AM, Bronn said:

Make your guesses at how our final roster(s) turn out here.

I used the roster manager at Spotrac and came up with the team below. By their values, and with the salary adjustments I made for PS players, this gives us cap room of around $1.9 Million.

Offense (24):

 

QB:
Cam
Gilbert

I still like Gilbert as the backup, but we might end up snagging someone from cuts.

 

RB:
Anderson
McCaffrey
Barner

The CAP/Barner battle will be one to watch. Someone suggested trading CAP in another thread, and I have to admit he is one of the more likely tradeable players on our team. Barner, IIRC, brings more to the return game, so I give him the nod.

 

FB:
Armah

 

He'll be a better player in this system, and used a lot more in different sets (including TE.) At least, I hope.

WR:
Funchess
Smith
Moore
Wright
Samuel
Byrd

 

Only one we're missing here is Bersin, ha. But yeah, I think all 6 of these will make the 53 man roster, but Byrd, Samuel, or Wright sit each week.

TE:
Olsen
Thomas
FA Signee

Looking at our roster, this may trump safety as far as depth need. I think we'll snag someone here post cuts for sure, IF we don't trade for someone or bring them in during camp.

 

T:
Kalil
Williams
Moton

 

Can any of them play LT? Kalil will hold it down another year, but I like some of the younger guys we've got hanging around, at least on paper.

G:
Turner
Van Roten
Sirles
Silatolu

LG will be another TC battle to watch. It could end up being someone not listed on this G list (read Larsen or Moton,) but I'll give the edge to Van Roten.

C:
Kalil
Larsen

Maybe the best C and backup C combo in the league?

Defense (26):

 

DE:
Pep
Addison
Horton
Hall
Obada
Cox
Haynes

 

We're pretty set here IMHO. I think Hall and Obada will surprise.

DT:
Short
Poe
Butler
Love

 

Stacked. Try to run at this rotation. I dare you.

LB:
Kuechly
Davis
Thompson
Mayo
Norris
Carter
Smith

 

I like both rookies to make the 53 man roster. It pushes Jacobs out, though.

CB:
Cockrell
Bradberry
Gunter
Jackson
Seymour

I think Captain is gone, despite the hit. I don't know that he ever really got out of the doghouse from anything I've read, and tbqh he played like hot garbage. Bradberry might be in danger, tbqh. I think we're pretty good here, however.

S:
Adams
Searcy
Gaulden

Colin Jones not making the cut makes this a pretty thin unit, and I expect we've got Boston or someone on speed dial. As long as Adams and Searcy don't have to play catch up and can keep the action in front of them, I think we'll be okay. As far as Gaulden goes, I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Special Teams (3):
Gano
Palardy
Jansen

 

No questions here.

For the PS players, I dropped all their salaries to $150,000 or so. It could end up being a little more or a little less on a case-by-case basis. The only real surprise here is Elder, I suppose. I think that if we cut him and re-sign him to the PS he gets a new contract, which will give us a few more dollars in space. He, Cox, and Southward, I did set salary values of $250,000 for.

Practice Squad:
QB - Heinicke
WR - Howard
TE - Baylis
T - Eatmon
G - Bosch
DT - Norton
DT - Sprinkle
CB – Elder
CB – Southward
S – Cox

 

 

I predict Matt Moore will sign next week to become our backup QB

[Toomers]

On 7/18/2018 at 3:44 PM, Jay Roosevelt said:

QB: 2
Cam Newton
Garrett Gilbert

RB: 3
Christian McCaffrey
C.J. Anderson
Cameron Artis-Payne

FB: 1
Alex Armah

WR: 6
Devin Funchess
D.J. Moore
Torrey Smith
Curtis Samuel
Jarius Wright
Damiere Byrd

TE: 3
Greg Olsen
Ian Thomas
VETERAN FREE AGENT

OT: 3
Daryl Williams
Matt Kalil
VETERAN FREE AGENT

OG: 5
Trai Turner
Taylor Moton
Amini Silatolu
Jeremiah Sirles
Greg Van Roten

C: 2
Ryan Kalil
Tyler Larsen

-----------------

DE: 6
Julius Peppers
Mario Addison
Wes Horton
Marquis Haynes
Daeshon Hall
Bryan Cox, Jr.

DT: 4
Kawann Short
Dontari Poe
Vernon Butler
Kendrick Norton

LB: 6
Luke Kuechly
Thomas Davis
Shaq Thompson
David Mayo
Jermaine Carter
Jared Norris

CB: 5
James Bradberry
Ross Cockrell
Donte Jackson
Captain Munnerlyn
Corn Elder

S: 4
Mike Adams
Da'Norris Searcy
Rashaan Gaulden
Colin Jones

ST: 3
Graham Gano
Michael Palardy
J.J. Jansen

Good effort by all but I’ll go with this one. About the only thing I would change would be keeping a CB(Seymour) over DE(Cox). Which is nothing. Finding any sort of OT depth for cheap is like buying a lottery ticket, at this point. Thanks for saving me a lot of typing. 

[Bronn]

On 7/18/2018 at 1:07 PM, Bronn said:

Offense (25):

 

QB:
Cam
Heinicke

TBQH, I have thought both Heinicke and Gilbert have looked decent at times. Based on PT so far, I'll now give the backup nod to Heinicke.

RB:
Anderson
McCaffrey
Artis-Payne

I think CAP has done well pushing for the three spot. I still like Barner, too, but I think we'll only carry three RBs on the 53.

FB:
Armah

WR:
Funchess
Smith
Moore
Wright
Samuel
Byrd

I don't think Smith is going anywhere. Byrd could get pushed out due to depth need at another position. For now, I'll roll with 6.

TE:
Olsen
Thomas
FA Signee

I still think we'll snag someone here post cuts, for sure.

T:
Kalil
Williams
Moton
Clausell

Clausell is an addition here for depth.

G:
Turner
Van Roten
Sirles
Mahon

Mahon has played himself into a spot on the 53 man roster. He brings solid depth. Amini gets the injury axe (I hope) in lieu of us keeping Obada on the active roster.

C:
Kalil
Larsen

Defense (25):

 

DE:
Pep
Addison
Horton
Obada
Cox
Haynes

Hall is the odd man out. Cox and Haynes have outplayed him, and I think we see more potential in Obada at this point.

DT:
Short
Poe
Butler
Love

LB:
Kuechly
Davis
Thompson
Mayo
Norris
Carter

I just couldn't see Smith making the cut here. He's hasn't had much of an opportunity on the field since his injury, so he'll make it to the PS instead.

CB:
Bradberry
Jackson
Munnerlyn
Seymour
Elder
Doss

It appears Cap is back in the good graces of the coach. I just hope he isn't a liability. Corn has been impressive. Doss has played well. We need depth here, and I think Gunter just hasn't been impressive enough to push any of the other guys out.

S:
Adams
Searcy
Gaulden

We're still thin here. We could hang onto Jones or sign someone that gets cut, which would likely push Damiere Byrd out of a roster spot.

Special Teams (3):
Gano
Palardy
Jansen

 

Practice Squad:
QB - Gilbert
WR - Frazier
TE - Vander Laan
T - Eatmon
C- Friend
DT - Norton
DE - Hall
CB – Carter
S – Southward
S – Cox

 

 

Bumpdated... Here's how I think things will end up.