Donte Jackson just stepped in poo

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, Moorgan said:

I agree with what you're saying. The main difference is if I'm paying by the beer/drink or if it's a tab. I don't tip 20% on the price of a drink. But I will if it's a tab. I'm not saying my tipping logic is sound. It's what I've done having been a server/driver/bartender. Basically, I'm generous when it comes to the service industry. You have to be a special kind of sucky to get me mad. Most of the issues people have, late or wrong food isn't necessarily the fault of the server. The kitchen is often poorly managed and the server bears the brunt of that.

I see what you are saying. I rarely do the per drink tipping anymore because I rarely carry cash these days for a drink by drink pay. Back when I did, I tipped fairly similarly to what you are saying. 

I haven't ever withheld tip because of the food being bad, the server doesn't make that, so it doesn't reflect poorly on them, IMO. Wrong food I only ding them for if it was clearly the servers fault. 

The most memorably bad experience I had was at a restaurant in Fayetteville, NC where the server took forever to show up at the table(the restaurant was at maybe 10% capacity), had a bunch of excuses instantly about being overworked(yo dawg, I have eyes, that poo is a lie), took forever to get drinks to us, got the order wrong, missed items on the order, never brought the items after we asked multiple times about them and literally just flat ghosted when it came time to get the check. We had to actually go find a manager so we could leave. The service was so bad that this entire process, which was supposed to just be a simple and relatively quick lunch stop, took about 1.5 hours from gate to gate. 

I also cussed out a manager in a spot in Augusta, GA once. Literally the only time I have ever gotten loud in any public place(non-ironically anyway). I honestly can't even remember what it was about now. 

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Yeah well that’s not how the service industry works. The pay scale generally speaking is the servers are up there working for tips. It’s part of the tax system. 

There are restaurants that pay an actual wage and not every country has this goofy ass system of being able to pay $2-4/hour. It's dumb.

Maybe I am in the minority but I wouldn't care about having to pay more for food if the restaurant paid it's employee's at least minimum wage.

[4Corners]

Another tip for some of you on here, because it’s obvious you need to be taught how to carry yourself when not on the internet - if you have kids and you go out to dinner, you need to tip greater than 20%. Someone has to clean up after your kids make a mess. 

[Devil Doc]

1 minute ago, 4Corners said:

Another tip for some of you on here, because it’s obvious you need to be taught how to carry yourself when not on the internet - if you have kids and you go out to dinner, you need to tip greater than 20%. Someone has to clean up after your kids make a mess. 

If my kid makes a mess, I actually clean it up before I leave. 

[4Corners]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

There are restaurants that pay an actual wage and not every country has this goofy ass system of being able to pay $2-4/hour. It's dumb.

Maybe I am in the minority but I wouldn't care about having to pay more for food if the restaurant paid it's employee's at least minimum wage.

My friend worked at Chapel Hill CC in college. She said they pooled the tips and at the end of the night they split everything equally. That seems like a pretty fair and ethical way to do it. Granted, a CC is much different than a regular bar or restaurant. 

[thefuzz]

If you can't afford, what is considered part of the dining experience, to tip, you can't afford to go out to eat.

 

And his statement about "having $5 more than you did" is as wrong as the shitty tip.  Restaurants often allocate tips, especially busier restaurants....and that rate is often 8%, not counting SS, medicare, and medicaid taxes.  He will likely be "charged" 8% of the bill toward taxes...meaning Jackson left him $5, but the tax man will look at this as what should in the least be a $9.60 tax.

The server will end up paying at least taxes on $9.60, not the $5 he left.

It's just a crap thing to do, service quality be damned.  If the service is that poor, talk to the manager, tip the correct amount, and don't return.

[4Corners]

2 minutes ago, Devil Doc said:

If my kid makes a mess, I actually clean it up before I leave. 

I am not crawling on my hands and knees underneath a table on a dirty ass floor to pick up every dropped Cheerio when a server can come by after we have left and simply sweep it up. 

I bet you are a bad tipper! You probably want to refill your own drink so that you can knock off a couple bucks from tipping the waiter. 

[Moose Hoover]

1 minute ago, 4Corners said:

 You probably want to refill your own drink so that you can knock off a couple bucks from tipping the waiter. 

now you've gone too far, everybody knows restaurant fountain soda is better. no shame in loading up onthat sweet nectar.

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

My friend worked at Chapel Hill CC in college. She said they pooled the tips and at the end of the night they split everything equally. That seems like a pretty fair and ethical way to do it. Granted, a CC is much different than a regular bar or restaurant. 

Eh.....I don't know. The problem is that also means the dead weight gets to benefit from the really good servers. Plenty of restaurants or bars do that, however. Not a fan personally because if I am going to throw down a big tip to reward the person for doing a great job, I want that tip to go to that person because THEY did a great job.

[4Corners]

Just now, Moose Hoover said:

now you've gone too far, everybody knows restaurant fountain soda is better. no shame in loading up onthat sweet nectar.

We went to like a bojangles on the way to the beach last summer and I made a “suicide” at the fountain and my wife looked at me in disgust 

[*FreeFua*]

7 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

The server who probably was being run around and hassled by a high maintenance customer and was rewarded with barely enough money to stop at McDonald’s on the way home. 

You say that like Jackson’s tip was the only money he was walking home with that night. 

Everyone knows there are people out there that don’t tip or tip less than recommended. No one forced this kid to become a server and run the risk of leaving part of his income into the hands of strangers generousity. Maybe he should consider working a job in which he isn’t partially depending on tips. 

For the record I tip and tip well bad service or not. Like you said, it’s rarely the service/waitress fault. 

[Moose Hoover]

1 minute ago, 4Corners said:

We went to like a bojangles on the way to the beach last summer and I made a “suicide” at the fountain and my wife looked at me in disgust 

she must not like cheerwine

[Moose Hoover]

the best tips are mushroom

[Jake&Smitty'sBoAds]

There's no better time than training camp to re-focus the squad on the basics: Blocking. Tackling. Tip Drills. etc.