Donte Jackson just stepped in poo

[MadHatter]

On 7/15/2018 at 6:22 PM, UnluckyCharms said:

Read the next sentence kiddo 

 

 

It is not about the cost or paying less, it is the principle of tipping.

But you are still paying for it either way.  

You seem to be hung up on how you pay (cheaper meal price plus a tip as compared to a more expensive meal price and no tip).  To me, this is the exact same...as I only care about the end sum game...which is that you will pay the same amount either way.

[micnificent28]

16 minutes ago, MadHatter said:

But you are still paying for it either way.  

You seem to be hung up on how you pay (cheaper meal price plus a tip as compared to a more expensive meal price and no tip).  To me, this is the exact same...as I only care about the end sum game...which is that you will pay the same amount either way.

I think I would be more comfortable with a slight* increase or flat rate spread out on everyone ones bill as opposed to some percentage that is the sum of how much I eat or my family eats. Tipping just seems unstable and on a slidding scale based off where you go( some places 10% I have seen 15% at others) or however the customer feels.

[MillionDollarCam]

9 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

This is true I agree in this case she earned that tip she wanted. But I have been on the other end of spectrum. I went out to a club and a “waitress I guess that what she was/dancer” I asked for a beer reaches in to the fridge grabs me a beer charges me 6 dollars and then asked me can you give me my 5 dollar tip. I personally expected beer to be expensive when I go out, I don’t expect a waitress to challenge me about a tip on the spot for just reaching behind her and handing me what I paid for.

I should have prefaced my point by stating that my opinion implies that the waiter/waitress is performing their job to the best of their ability.

After all, individuals who work in the food and beverage industry should be aware that their occupation requires a standard of service that many occupations do not. On the contrary, the occupation itself can be very rewarding salary wise if you are lucky enough to climb the ladder of the industry.

I've had a few downright terrible experiences where a waiter/waitress profiles me as a 25 year old adult who can't afford to leave a decent tip and therefore treats me as such. Regardless, I'm leaving 18% because at the end of the day I sat on my ass and didn't have to do a damn thing in regards to the preparation and service of the meal.

I inferred from the tweet that the service was at the very minimum average and yet somehow Donte felt compelled to only leave $5.

Personally, I take pride in tipping. If someone treats me well, I'll return the favor.

[Cpt slay a ho]

On 7/14/2018 at 11:00 PM, WarHeel said:

A poor customer won’t stop me from doing my job. Likewise I wouldn’t post it on social media if a customer stiffed me.

 

However, when you’re eating out (especially when you have more than enough means) it’s standard to tip 20%. I’ve had some pretty ish service in my day and never have I not tipped someone at least 20%. You never know what someone is going through and what is intentional and what isn’t. 

That last part works both ways, even though I highly doubt donate was struggling this bad. I’m similar and tip regardless the service, but I consider myself pretty rare compared to others in that aspect. Basically I agree a better tip should be made BUT you, as a server are not entitled to what “generally” is fair, people with our mindset are rare and most times you’ll get shafted on a tip than you will get fairly or overcompensated on a tip. That’s all, go in with that mindset and you won’t be upset with bad tippers 

[kungfoodude]

6 hours ago, MadHatter said:

But you are still paying for it either way.  

You seem to be hung up on how you pay (cheaper meal price plus a tip as compared to a more expensive meal price and no tip).  To me, this is the exact same...as I only care about the end sum game...which is that you will pay the same amount either way.

The whole fuging point of why we are making this argument is precisely BECAUSE people have the option to determine a server's wages.  It's a legitimately moronic system of pay. Pay a fair wage, charge more for food. Big fuging deal. The crowd you are eliminating with a price bump is probably not going to be frequent anyway. In fine dining, the impact would probably be minimal for a healthy restaurant. In national chain food, it probably would have minimal impact. The mom and pops might struggle but, frankly, they are usually struggling anyway unless they carve out a spot.

I literally cannot believe the sense of entitlement that is coming out of some of you people. Feel free to look up the definition of gratuity. It is not voluntary. Should you tip the "generally accepted societal norm" amount if you get adequate service? No question. But it is not MANDATORY. Saying that you must tip 20% regardless of the situation is just about as dumb as saying a server should never take more than 20% as a tip. 

Also, can we please stop using "fine dining" as the basis for why servers deserve more? Fine dining is a generally different level of service and expertise to even have those positions. That is also not by any stretch the bulk of the eating establishments. For every high end restaurant there are untold numbers of sit-down national chain restaurants, diners, smaller restaurants, etc, etc.  That is not a scenario that is reflective of the average dining experience. Nor should the fact that it is not a "fine dining experience" absolve someone from giving a fair tip. ESPECIALLY if you are eating at a cheaper restaurant. How much out of pocket is it to throw $4 on a $20 tab? Seriously.

And servers/former servers, quit being so fuging outraged at the unmitigated GALL of these "poor" people to leave a bad tip. The general sense of butthurt is ludicrous. Did you all learn on the job that bad tippers and bad people exist? What a sheltered experience. I suspect that almost all of you were aware that assholes were just as likely to come to your place of work as nice people were. Obviously you stayed in those positions so the good times outweighed the bad. Conversely, if you are working in the restaurant industry as a server, you probably had just as much of opportunity to take a retail job, fast food job or other service job in that area. 

TLDR

Both sides, quit whining and bickering.

[tiger7_88]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

quit being so fuging outraged at the unmitigated GALL of these "poor" people to leave a bad tip

Donte Jackson soooooooooooooo poor...

(Unless you meant to imply poor attitude?)

[Icege]

17 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

This needs to change,McDonald’s doesn’t require I tip the drive through lady who basically just hands me the food  someone else cooked,there isn’t a huge diffrence here.the fee I payed should cover all people who were already involved just like at McDonalds.coming from that already expensive price I just paid.Just to my opinion tho.

Do you truly believe that working a drive thru window and waiting tables in a restaurant are similar? Have you done both?

[PantherFanInPhilly]

Jesus Christ, yall are still arguing about this??

[Peppers90 NC]

1 hour ago, Icege said:

Do you truly believe that working a drive thru window and waiting tables in a restaurant are similar? Have you done both?

that dude is totally lost no point in engaging if he thinks the only part of a service is what he sees first hand. at least by this thread there are decent amount of people to make up for the cheapskates.

[PanthersBigD]

This is the epitome of an offseason thread. 22 pages of arguing about what constitutes a bad tipper. Come on Training Camp!

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

Donte Jackson soooooooooooooo poor...

(Unless you meant to imply poor attitude?)

Not Jackson, I am talking about all the "GO BACK TO MCDONALD'S" comments. I think we can all agree this thread has moved well past Jackson being a cheapskate.

[SmootsDaddy89]

I'm not suggesting you can't tip poorly or refuse to tip at all, it's just that you're a selfish, shitty person if you do. You can come in this thread and excuse your gross behavior as much as you want, but no one goes out to eat with their last $20 in their pocket and simply can't afford the $4 tip. "My bad tip will be balanced out by someone's good tip durr hurr." It's no different than if you waddle into Walmart and buy an xbox1, but you tell the manager you don't want the cashier to be paid for an hour so you can save 10 bucks on the cost of the console. "I'm perfectly capable of buying one off of Amazon and waiting for it to be shipped, it's just more convenient to come here." YES THAT'S THE WHOLE fuging POINT RETARD. WHEN YOU GO OUT TO EAT YOU PAY FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF HAVING SOMEONE BRING ALREADY COOKED, READY TO EAT FOOD TO YOUR FACE. If you don't want to do that, feel free to stay at home and eat a sloppy joe or some poo. The only difference between retail and fast food is you pay the person in the customer service role directly what you think their service was worth (And it's always worth something.) instead of the money being added into the price of the goods you're purchasing.

 

That being said, the only thing that REALLY bothers me on this issue is regularly shitty tippers who complain about the service they get. "Wahhhh my food took too long and it's cold." Like, you should be grateful anyone brings you food at all lmao.

[micnificent28]

4 hours ago, Icege said:

Do you truly believe that working a drive thru window and waiting tables in a restaurant are similar? Have you done both?

I have done neither. But I can imagine that the drive through person is not always working the window. The next day she or he is on the grill sweeping and mopping floors,cleaning bathrooms and at times they are required to bring your food out to your car. I am not sure waitresses ever have to cook but I think you are required to clean up as well. The two are not that different in the grand scheme of things. One is just more highly thought of.

[micnificent28]

2 hours ago, Peppers90 NC said:

that dude is totally lost no point in engaging if he thinks the only part of a service is what he sees first hand. at least by this thread there are decent amount of people to make up for the cheapskates.

This is precisely the point I was trying to make. Most people don’t stay around to see all that a waitress does so most people tip according to what they see or how they were treated. Your employer who is there does see and regulate the job you do. He should be the one compensating you for that which I don’t see. That’s the way it works in every other industry. I think the tipping system is dumb basically.