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[Moose Hoover]

On 7/9/2018 at 10:50 AM, 4Corners said:

oh yeah baby luv you lon timez

beefy mini quesadillas from tacos bel that's what i would eat if homeless

[SmootsDaddy89]

18 hours ago, UnluckyCharms said:

Besides the numerous reasons why tipping is outdated and should be done away with, I have an issue with being responsible for someone else's wage. It is not about the cost or paying less, it is the principle of tipping. By definition a tip is a reward for good service. It should not be a paycheck and its not my responsibility to pay a workers paycheck. If you want to raise prices or include a service fee then do so but a consumer giving workers money for carrying food 25 feet is dumb. Giving people a reward for doing their job well is a different story. I tip my barber after his 40 dollar flat rate when the cut is good and if it is not then I don't.The same should apply to the fast food industry. If the service I receive is extraordinary(it rarely is) then my waiter gets a modest tip. Either way whether or not a waiter gets a livable wage shouldn't be dependent on the goodwill of a stranger. Just pay them a minimum wage like everyone else.

 

 

Really easy concept to grasp.

If you don't like the current structure of eating out, then don't eat out. But don't punish servers because of your own dumb protest. A tip (at least in the US) isn't a fuging reward you self important doofus. A server deserves compensation for taking the time to take your order, bring you your food, and continue to check on you and take any further orders or to go plates, drink refills, etc. Should their employer be the one to compensate them? Of course, but they'd have to add that to the cost of the food, so they're not going to do that. It's up to you to do the right thing, and pay the person for their service. If you don't want to be served, you can go to McDonalds with the rest of the trailer park herd. 

[SmootsDaddy89]

15 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

Who are you to say what’s i deserve? I feel my dollar is good enough for your bosses then that’s exactly what’s I deserve. If it’s not not built into the bill anything else’s is subjective to my dinning experiences. Yes I have a paminto cheese sandwhiches and ramen noodle noodles and yes people deserve a break every now and then.

 

If I can afford it and ur boss is ok with my payment. shouldn’t you follow up all further gripes with him. He is the one lowballing you on what you”describe as a fine dinning Experience” maybe you deserve some fine dinning pay? Instead of he treat you like a fast food worker and expect the kindness of strangers to always win out? In a perfect world yes but this world isn’t perfect. The problem is the system that works on the honor code but honor isn’t something that is always gonna win the day. I have nothing against the struggling worker who depends on those tips and needs them to pay the bills.

To say somebody who payed their hard earned money for a meal  didn’t give you what’s you think you deserved is entitled. I wouldn’t tip you because your challenging me and demanding money personally,and maybe all you did was bring out the food that someone’s else’s cooked. Maybe u didn’t comeback and refill my glass or anything. who knows maybe because your busy with other customers and your demanding how much? 

Lets really break it down. Your a waitress or waiter and say you pocket what you make from tips. Say you get 10 dollars per table waited “fine dinning prices of course” your looking at how much at a consistent pace 40 dollars a hour plus whatever pennies the boss is paying and you arguing about what some poor college kid deserves no sir. That cheap kid balences out the good and the bad. People with degrees dont make 40 a hour to bring out food and glasses.  

idk where this retard math is coming from, but servers don't average $40/hour by a long shot. And even if they did, do you think they work 40 hours a week? You think their manager wants to pay them health insurance and other full time benefits? They're lucky to see 20+ hours a week unless it's a holiday week or something. 

[micnificent28]

30 minutes ago, SmootsDaddy89 said:

idk where this retard math is coming from, but servers don't average $40/hour by a long shot. And even if they did, do you think they work 40 hours a week? You think their manager wants to pay them health insurance and other full time benefits? They're lucky to see 20+ hours a week unless it's a holiday week or something. 

I explained my definition of fine dinning exactly. Fine dinning would be a place where I expect to spend no less than 100 dollars at say Sullivan’s. 10% of that is 10 dollars. And as any employee who gets to choose when they work. You don’t get to say I got enough money for the day and go home plus keep your job. 

[micnificent28]

On 7/13/2018 at 8:11 PM, MillionDollarCam said:

This is my personal opinion, but I always try to tip a fair percentage based off service and then depending how long I stay I'll throw in something extra.

I overheard this waitress break down one time because she had been waiting on a table full of college age girls (probably a group of 15 or so) for 2.5 hours running food, drinks, etc. Anywho, they left her a $5 tip for 2.5 hours.

2.5 hours is at the very minimum two additional tables she could have waited, maybe even three. I felt so bad I threw her a $50.

In my opinion, not only are people not cognizant of tipping, but also how long they are staying. If Jackson spent two hours at the table and ordered $200 worth of food while only tipping $5 then he really is an ass. If you spend a poo ton of money but you are in and out, fine. However, when you stay a lengthy period of time keeping a waiter from getting their next table and still only tip $5... that makes you an ass.

This is true I agree in this case she earned that tip she wanted. But I have been on the other end of spectrum. I went out to a club and a “waitress I guess that what she was/dancer” I asked for a beer reaches in to the fridge grabs me a beer charges me 6 dollars and then asked me can you give me my 5 dollar tip. I personally expected beer to be expensive when I go out, I don’t expect a waitress to challenge me about a tip on the spot for just reaching behind her and handing me what I paid for.

[Moo Daeng]

16 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

Who are you to say what’s i deserve? I feel my dollar is good enough for your bosses then that’s exactly what’s I deserve. If it’s not not built into the bill anything else’s is subjective to my dinning experiences. Yes I have a paminto cheese sandwhiches and ramen noodle noodles and yes people deserve a break every now and then.

 

If I can afford it and ur boss is ok with my payment. shouldn’t you follow up all further gripes with him. He is the one lowballing you on what you”describe as a fine dinning Experience” maybe you deserve some fine dinning pay? Instead of he treat you like a fast food worker and expect the kindness of strangers to always win out? In a perfect world yes but this world isn’t perfect. The problem is the system that works on the honor code but honor isn’t something that is always gonna win the day. I have nothing against the struggling worker who depends on those tips and needs them to pay the bills.

To say somebody who payed their hard earned money for a meal  didn’t give you what’s you think you deserved is entitled. I wouldn’t tip you because your challenging me and demanding money personally,and maybe all you did was bring out the food that someone’s else’s cooked. Maybe u didn’t comeback and refill my glass or anything. who knows maybe because your busy with other customers and your demanding how much? 

Lets really break it down. Your a waitress or waiter and say you pocket what you make from tips. Say you get 10 dollars per table waited “fine dinning prices of course” your looking at how much at a consistent pace 40 dollars a hour plus whatever pennies the boss is paying and you arguing about what some poor college kid deserves no sir. That cheap kid balences out the good and the bad. People with degrees dont make 40 a hour to bring out food and glasses.  

You deserve to get shitty service. You should learn to cook.

[Peppers90 NC]

11 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I explained my definition of fine dinning exactly. Fine dinning would be a place where I expect to spend no less than 100 dollars at say Sullivan’s. 10% of that is 10 dollars. And as any employee who gets to choose when they work. You don’t get to say I got enough money for the day and go home plus keep your job. 

You cant throw another $10 on top of that? 

[micnificent28]

19 hours ago, UnluckyCharms said:

Besides the numerous reasons why tipping is outdated and should be done away with, I have an issue with being responsible for someone else's wage. It is not about the cost or paying less, it is the principle of tipping. By definition a tip is a reward for good service. It should not be a paycheck and its not my responsibility to pay a workers paycheck. If you want to raise prices or include a service fee then do so but a consumer giving workers money for carrying food 25 feet is dumb. Giving people a reward for doing their job well is a different story. I tip my barber after his 40 dollar flat rate when the cut is good and if it is not then I don't.The same should apply to the fast food industry. If the service I receive is extraordinary(it rarely is) then my waiter gets a modest tip. Either way whether or not a waiter gets a livable wage shouldn't be dependent on the goodwill of a stranger. Just pay them a minimum wage like everyone else.

 

 

Really easy concept to grasp.

I agree. Sound like a lot theses people’s gripes should be with they job and the system. You should not be expected to pay an already heafty prices for a meal and pay the establishments workers as well. What a profit for the owner! this is similar to the NCAA making huge profits off the players and not having to pay the people who fuel that industry(not that extreme but you see what I mean).

This needs to change,McDonald’s doesn’t require I tip the drive through lady who basically just hands me the food  someone else cooked,there isn’t a huge diffrence here.the fee I payed should cover all people who were already involved just like at McDonalds.coming from that already expensive price I just paid.Just to my opinion tho.

[micnificent28]

11 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

You cant throw another $10 on top of that? 

It’s not that I can’t of course I can. But look at how much she just made off 10 mins of work. Some people don’t get that in a hour for a back breaking sweating job. Why go to school for anything or aspire to be anything other than a waitress if u making 10 bucks a table? I feel the company should fairly compensate all involved in making the meal out of that already expensive 100 meal just like any other eatery.

[Still Brooklyn]

21 pages but the truth remains, the biggest issue with tipping is that it's not a law.

[micnificent28]

43 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

You deserve to get shitty service. You should learn to cook.

You should tell that to the man accepting my money and and not fairly compensating you. In no other field is it the customers job to pay a workers salary. I’m not saying the server deserves less or to be treated poorly, I’m saying the system is flawed.

[PurityControl]

I only stiffed a waiter once in my 38yrs, I was around 23 at the time

Some shite chain place can’t remember an Applebee’s or Fridays something, we get seated ( my girl and I)  and already the server has an attitude for whatever reason, my girl orders a “Plain chicken sandwich” I get what I get whatever, her food comes and it’s just a 2 pieces of bread and no chicken, I think the general consensus is when you order something plain, it means no condiments, add ons etc., NOT SANS Meat

 Now I have been working in kitchens since I was 16 & I was in culinary school at the time as well, I have a hard time believing the kitchen staff made that kind of mistake but ok benefit of the doubt no problem we tell the server and he chuckles didn’t seem to care takes it away and brings my food out.

I wait and wait and my girl still doesn’t have her food, we can’t find the server to flag him down, so I start to eat, and get about ½ way done when her food finally comes out 2 pieces of bread chicken and covered in mayonnaise. And during that time, no drink refills no water no it will be right out I’m sorry, Nothing dude was just gone until he brought out the botched order a 2^nd time, and the place was dead as well not like he was waiting on others, also means the kitchen staff wasn’t swamped and as I said this is a chain place, so pop a frozen patty out of the freezer into the fryer 3-5min done

My girl try’s to wipe the mayonnaise off with a paper towel because by this time late I’m about done eating she’s starving and nobody wants to deal with that prick again.

So yeah I left a 1c tip on $40 bill or so

There’s just no way IMO that the kitchen staff was that incompetent, 2 times in a row, he could of also easily seen the bun covered in mayo before he hit my table a 2^nd time

So yeah I wasn’t going to tip that prick a $5 spot on a $40 bill for basically doing NOTHING, because its “customary”

Only time I’ve ever done that where I felt the service was pure absolute dog sh*t

 

 

[Peppers90 NC]

2 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

It’s not that I can’t of course I can. But look at how much she just made off 10 mins of work. Some people don’t get that in a hour for a back breaking sweating job. Why go to school for anything or aspire to be anything other than a waitress if u making 10 bucks a table? I feel the company should fairly compensate all involved in making the meal out of that already expensive 100 meal just like any other eatery.

yea 10 minutes of work not sure where you got that from but do what you gotta do guy

[micnificent28]

26 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

yea 10 minutes of work not sure where you got that from but do what you gotta do guy

As far as my dollar is concerned it’s 10 mins of work. Anything after I leave is the job itself and what you signed up for. I pay and most of the time the waitress brings me what I payed for and comes back to collect payment. That’s about it. I normally don’t run a person back and forth and complain this is wrong and give me a refill such and such but each experience is different. I want everyone to be fairly compensated which is why I’m ranting on the system. 

You can’t rely on the kindness of strangers this day and age and expect people to do the right thing. If people don’t do the right thing it’s a loss for the waiter is my point. This needs to be changed. People are changing people don’t care about the well being of other stuff like hey use to and the times should reflect it.